got cheated in Lucky Plaza ! Everyone come in & read !!
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hmm, have you tested your keyboard before you buy?
i've never done that before... perhaps its cos i always buy either microsoft or logitech... and quite lucky all the time.
Yes, I have. But usually i get the salesperson to open it up for me to prevent any accidental damage to the box.
Sorry to hear the problem you have to go through.. All i know.. is that .. whatever process you do .. SCT/CASE or TOURISM BOARD.. it will be a lengthy process and you will end up wasting lot of your own time. Im not trying to tell you to give up. BUt you decide lor. If you have the money and time .. then go ahead..
But if this happened to me, this is waht i will do ..
1) If i free.. and happened to be walking around at Luckyplaza, I will approach any customers in there especially .. tourist .. and tell them quietly.. of the shop reputation... then stand around the shop.. when ever someone want to walk to the shop i then .. will tell the customers not to go to the shop.
Advantages : I happy mah ..
Diadvantages : They will call police.. You can predict mah .. you can disturb the shop .. maximum 1hour 30 minutes.. then leave lor.. they cant stop you and demand your particular.. nor.. touch you to restrain you. Most to most .. you be told to leave the place and not cause any nuisance. You think they want to sue you?? They also got no time and money to spend on civil case like what you are going through.
2) I will still post openly in websites and internet stating the shop name and what had happened to me. Why i scare?? I have prove of evidence of purchase and the faulty product with me. Futhermore got police attended my case already ..sure got incident number. Defamation will work only for reputable and respectable person like Major known company and person with high reputation. (example Ministers) Where you can be sues for defamation if you are demm to have tried to cause damages to those reputable person. Still they have to go through legal proceedings by going to Sub Court.. Not SCT ... it will cost more... and time consuming.. YOu think they will do it?? 99% NOpe. By the way, if you are worried being sued, By posting such thing like the shop name and the words you mentioned here are as good as you can get sued if they see this remarks.. But they are not a reputable shop and respectable people with high post.. so dont bother..
Lastly .. those 2 option i posted .. is for me to do if happened to me.. but not telling you to do it.. yeah .. So relax and move on bro .. Life is like a box of chocolate.. You dont know what you going to get .. Sometimes we get a sweet one and sometimes.. we might get shyt... so Peace and relax ok...
Regards,
HaimE
But if this happened to me, this is waht i will do ..
1) If i free.. and happened to be walking around at Luckyplaza, I will approach any customers in there especially .. tourist .. and tell them quietly.. of the shop reputation... then stand around the shop.. when ever someone want to walk to the shop i then .. will tell the customers not to go to the shop.
Advantages : I happy mah ..
Diadvantages : They will call police.. You can predict mah .. you can disturb the shop .. maximum 1hour 30 minutes.. then leave lor.. they cant stop you and demand your particular.. nor.. touch you to restrain you. Most to most .. you be told to leave the place and not cause any nuisance. You think they want to sue you?? They also got no time and money to spend on civil case like what you are going through.
2) I will still post openly in websites and internet stating the shop name and what had happened to me. Why i scare?? I have prove of evidence of purchase and the faulty product with me. Futhermore got police attended my case already ..sure got incident number. Defamation will work only for reputable and respectable person like Major known company and person with high reputation. (example Ministers) Where you can be sues for defamation if you are demm to have tried to cause damages to those reputable person. Still they have to go through legal proceedings by going to Sub Court.. Not SCT ... it will cost more... and time consuming.. YOu think they will do it?? 99% NOpe. By the way, if you are worried being sued, By posting such thing like the shop name and the words you mentioned here are as good as you can get sued if they see this remarks.. But they are not a reputable shop and respectable people with high post.. so dont bother..
Lastly .. those 2 option i posted .. is for me to do if happened to me.. but not telling you to do it.. yeah .. So relax and move on bro .. Life is like a box of chocolate.. You dont know what you going to get .. Sometimes we get a sweet one and sometimes.. we might get shyt... so Peace and relax ok...
Regards,
HaimE
No brand....just MIC product. But it's really small one. I really liked and wanted it as I can carry it around everytime i go for servicing......
I do have 3 extra keyboards in office. Just that this time round didnt bring one cuz didnt expect the situation would need one.
So, my manager just told me to get new one which is why I bought.
Bro, it's not just about money. It's about getting cheated which hurt me most and my pride. As the shop likes to play this game......I will also do whatever i can to restore confidence in myself and for the sake of future customers....... and only then will I be able to take this as complete package of lessons......
noted....perhaps you can tell your story to 《前线追踪》，I think they may be interested in your case.I believe justice must be done, such act should not be condone.
Ya, if the shop still fail to send representations after being summoned by the Court, a judgement may be entered against it. Thereafter, the Courts may grant you a favourable judgement.
However, if you notified the shop and they refuse to pay, think tt you can employ a court batiff to seize goods from the shop to sell so that you can recover your cost ...
"How to Enforce an Order of the Small Claims Tribunals
*Please note that the following is only a guideline. Please seek your own legal advice on any clarification or other forms of enforcement.
Money Order
A Money Order is deemed a Magistrates' Court Order for the purpose of enforcement.
If the Judgment Debtor fails to pay the amount stipulated in the Money Order, the Judgment Creditor may issue a Writ of Seizure and Sale to seize and sell the movable property belonging to the Judgment Debtor. The Writ of Seizure and Sale is executed by the Subordinate Courts Bailiffs @ SCT, of the Subordinate Courts of Singapore."
http://app.subcourts.gov.sg/sct/print.aspx?pageid=4524
I remember that one lady went tt route, appear in the papers some more ...
but qn is that do u want to go thru tt long drawn process?
Like i mentioned earlier,
1) a bit rushing
2) 2nd time purchase of keyboard in same shop (But first time keyboard purchase was A4Tech which i think reputable that's y no problem. Also didnt test on the spot that time.)
3) sales guy gave me verbally warranty...."life time" some more... (at first time purchase, not even such a word of warranty. That time was another guy who sold me.)
All these factors gave me enough trust not to check on the spot. srry...u may say..i'm noob.. :embrass:
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I'm not aware of any court decision deciding whether they are admissible or non-admissible.
However, it cannot be denied that it is certainly useful in the following:
1. Making the salesman keep his word.
2. Showing to CASE for followup
3. Showing to SCT for followup (from what I last recall, SCT does not adhere to the normal strict rules of evidence as in a normal court cases).
4. Staving off a defamation suit.
However, it cannot be denied that it is certainly useful in the following:
1. Making the salesman keep his word.
2. Showing to CASE for followup
3. Showing to SCT for followup (from what I last recall, SCT does not adhere to the normal strict rules of evidence as in a normal court cases).
4. Staving off a defamation suit.
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This is a internet photography forum, there are no litigators or judges here, just ordinary people who give comments in their capacity as ordinary people.
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I'd think the most relevant case here is cheating, although I doubt there's any cheating involved, not very sure. But if even I'm not sure, I will reckon that the police will take a hands' off approach.
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Yup these are extra-legal measures that can be taken if you don't want to go through the legal process. Just be aware of the risks and make your own decision.
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Just to add on, the process in the SCT route is far less long drawn than via a normal court. Things are much simple rand shorter.
From what I recall, the process is:
1. File your claim
2. Other side gets served
3. Both parties go for mediation
4. Both parties go for hearing.
5. Judgment issued
6. Get Baliff to enforce.
This is very very very much more simplified than a normal court process. If this is considered long drawn, then a normal court process will take ages.
From what I recall, the process is:
1. File your claim
2. Other side gets served
3. Both parties go for mediation
4. Both parties go for hearing.
5. Judgment issued
6. Get Baliff to enforce.
This is very very very much more simplified than a normal court process. If this is considered long drawn, then a normal court process will take ages.
Exactly! I reported as cheating also. Of cuz, this is sure cheating obviously.
This sentence alone from his mouth already proved cheating...."Who knows i told u warranty...."
not 40$ hurt me, but this thing does hurt my self-esteem.
Too bad...i hav neither black & white nor voice recording......
but i guess...i wont forget those words in my life......."who knows.." :devil:
So.....Does it mean that everyone has the rights to do "crime" or "whatever" by the use of the word "who knows" ????
btw, why hands' off approach? That time, I also felt the same just by hearing the word "cant force".
Just to add on, the process in the SCT route is far less long drawn than via a normal court. Things are much simple rand shorter.
From what I recall, the process is:
1. File your claim
2. Other side gets served
3. Both parties go for mediation
4. Both parties go for hearing.
5. Judgment issued
6. Get Baliff to enforce.
This is very very very much more simplified than a normal court process. If this is considered long drawn, then a normal court process will take ages.
To add abit to it from my own experience have brought two cases to the SCT. The paper and all all that stuff to get a hearing is abit of a pain but it has to be done ( you can get more details from their website) but still yes..it is not as troublesome and expensive then going to a real court and also paying lawyers fee too.
To get back to my main point ....If you want "justice" go find it elsewhere and if you want to get your full value owed to you....good luck. What the tribunal will do is try to mediate to the point where both side can reach a "happy" agreement and to not waste the official's time too. Trust me I know, I the victim got told off too when I try to press that the amount the customer owed should be paid in full and that is after I brought out all the document. In both cases...it was not about who win and who got told who is the bad guy here. In the end my company had to settle with less then 50% pay back on the spot by the two sly ex-customers....Mediator told me to take it or take it to the higher court if I want JUSTICE and FULL PAYMENT as he goes about explaining to me how fruitless it would be for me to further! Twice! it happened to me. SCT's job is to compromise on both side to come to a "fair" decision for BOTH side. There is nothing about justice here...and I have signed invoice with company stamp, DO..etc. He just said he can't pay, had financial difficulty now and have only a small amount if I am willing to take it if not he can't. And you still have to pay your $10 or $50 and not the person you brought to the hearing against. (I did it as a company and above $5,000 so I have to pay the latter amount) In all the whole proceeding took like a month plus. You still have to go down, sit and wait for your number to call for submission which can take an hour or so, enquiry..etc. Worth it? I think that was the last time I will use it.
why waste your time and mood over this scumbag. simmer down, at least many of us are aware already.
everytime, i shop ard LP, i always have the prejudice look at those salesman lining along the basement. that also, goes to those ppl in SLS, PP... they always think that they have a hand above the law.. :thumbsd:
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