actually road users (drivers and riders) must give way to pedestrians no matter who has right of way.
Cycling on the pavement, who has the right of way?
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Huh, I beg your pardon, are u sure? I have read of cases in the papers of pedestrians by knocked down by cyclist and some got seriously injured. I remember, a year or two ago, an elderly woman even died of her injuries after being knocked down by a cyclist.
Dude, dont bring maths into the scenario here. It is useless, you want to ride on the pavement, be prepared to be accept that you are not top priority there, you want to go faster, get on the road/grass. Why dont you ask the drivers to give way to the riders? AFAIAC, both drivers and riders are using a piece of hardware. even the slightest knock hurts.
Yup, there was a case like this a couple of months back, IIRC, a pedestrian ran across the road when the crossing has ended and got hit by a car, he sued and won I believe, the car did not give him the right of way, and it was deemed that the car could have stopped in time.
I believe thats what happened anyway.
If road bullies are hauled to court, errant cyclists shouldn't be let off hook." By Marcus Tun. ST Forum (Online Letters) [The Straits Times], 24 Jan 2006.
Take action against cyclists on pavements before accidents happen." By Teoh Beng San. ST Forum (Online Letters) [The Straits Times], 20 Jan 2006.
hey i cycle too, but i do not demand right of way
as mentioned b4 just cycle on the grass if you want to overtake
or cycle slowly behind them, after a while they will notice you and give way with a smile
as mentioned b4 just cycle on the grass if you want to overtake
or cycle slowly behind them, after a while they will notice you and give way with a smile
Or you can get a black eye because someone punched you in the face. :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
I din realise cyclists vs predestrian can be a very sensitive topic. After seeing the 2 viewpoints I still have to say I stand by the predestrian side. Agreed injuries caused by bikes may not be always that damaging. Agreed that people "cycle just to buy chicken rice"
Agreed that cycling is a fun exercise.
But....
If you just want to "buy chicken rice" are you so in need that u have to tell the predestrian to move it so that i can get my rice?
Its all about manners here really. I don't know about others, but i am particular about manners. If cyclists ring their bell at me, I will 100% walk @ the center of the pavement. I am not a dog and you are not my master. More to the point, we are not in military training, hell, even commanders shout once in a while.
Who says cycling on the road is very dangerous ? I see loads of the foreign workers on the road side everyday but i don't hear them complaining (maybe i don't know tamil, but i sure know chinese ) if even the foreigners are willing to abide the rules... what would others think about Singaporeans ?
Yep, my penny of thoughts. =)
Agreed that cycling is a fun exercise.
But....
If you just want to "buy chicken rice" are you so in need that u have to tell the predestrian to move it so that i can get my rice?
Its all about manners here really. I don't know about others, but i am particular about manners. If cyclists ring their bell at me, I will 100% walk @ the center of the pavement. I am not a dog and you are not my master. More to the point, we are not in military training, hell, even commanders shout once in a while.
Who says cycling on the road is very dangerous ? I see loads of the foreign workers on the road side everyday but i don't hear them complaining (maybe i don't know tamil, but i sure know chinese ) if even the foreigners are willing to abide the rules... what would others think about Singaporeans ?
Yep, my penny of thoughts. =)
Ok i am sorry if i offended someone.
but the fact is the bike's speed will not cause serious injury to the pedestrian. Seriously.
do you know the impact if the psycho bus ram you from behind?
do you know most cyclist die because the taxi in front of them suddenly turn in and brake?
If you are a parent, i am sure if your children want to cycle, you would also seriously tell them NOT to cycle on the road. It is dangerous.
OMG seriously. Parents ALWAYS teach their children not to ride on main roads. I don't see how anymore DUH your statement can get. OF COURSE IT IS DANGEROUS.
If kids want to cycle, they usually do so on smaller roads within their estates, not main roads where there is the possibility of being 'rammed by a psycho bus'.
i understand perfectly that i have to give way as well.
but now some people obviously just walk in the middle of the pavement even when seeing you approach. I had a few where the guy sees me approaching and suddenly change direction to cause me to lose control. :cry:
I was in japan for a month and people really give way. Why can't we be more gracious?
BECAUSE IT IS A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY. Been answered a million times already.
It's not that Singaporeans arn't gracious, but you sound like you just want your way and everything to suit you.
Japan is Japan, Singapore is Singapore. Doesn't matter if you speed or don't speed on the walkway, the issue is the inconvenience you cause to others because of your sheer presence. Get this point, IT IS THE INCONVENIENCE YOU CAUSE.
I think it's ok for the cyclists to ride on the pavement because it's safer on the pavement for them than on the road. I have never heard anyone got killed by cyclists yet but I often read many cyclists were killed on the road. The cyclists also have to consider the safety of the perdestrains too so they have to exercise caution.
http://www.cycling.org.sg/cycling_news/Cyclists_may_get_to_ride_on_pavements_(STI_4.3.2005).pdf
Is this good enough for u?
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Well, perhaps there is another legislation (which I will try to find out) and this is not the right one - however do note that the Police have issued advisories on the Straits Times on this issue.
Also, I note that it is possible to interpret the Rule to mean that a Bicycle must travel on the left hand side of the roadway and no where else. This is not a prohibitive Rule but an enabling one:
Every bicycle shall be ridden close to the left hand edge of the roadwayand in such a manner as not to obstruct vehicles moving at a faster speed.
Which means if you do not comply with the above, you are committing an offence.
That said, it is just my humble interpretation/opinion - it may not be correct and I state upfront that I'm not certain on it. I stand corrected if anyone else has a better source of law.
Also, I note that it is possible to interpret the Rule to mean that a Bicycle must travel on the left hand side of the roadway and no where else. This is not a prohibitive Rule but an enabling one:
Every bicycle shall be ridden close to the left hand edge of the roadwayand in such a manner as not to obstruct vehicles moving at a faster speed.
Which means if you do not comply with the above, you are committing an offence.
That said, it is just my humble interpretation/opinion - it may not be correct and I state upfront that I'm not certain on it. I stand corrected if anyone else has a better source of law.
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