Annoying self-claim photographers.
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Exactly. It's not like I'm posting it on some other important and irrelevant forums. I posted it here to ask for views. Views from different people because I want to know who disagrees with me and who doesnt. and WHY.
Like I said, the only reason why I got so affected is becasue they are my close friends. Friends whom I know so well that i know that a dslr and only an accessory to them. This is the reason why i felt so insulted. They want to hang something fancy around their necks and they got what they want. So how can I not be jealous? I grew up w/o parents and so I have to handle all this myself. Now that I know what my hobby is, I work hard to get what I need.
It is my fault for sterotyping them and saying that they have 'no passion'. But at the start of the forum, I asked "Do you think they are really into photography?". The next thing I know is someone misusing my words, twisting my logic and changing my initial meaning.
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It should not bother you whether or not who got the camera for them, whether or not they have the passion for photography. If you are indeed affected by the fact that they got their DSLR the easy way and have no passion in photography, why not try igniting their passion in photography by inviting them to join you for shoots? If you do that, you no longer have to complain about them using the DSLR as a fashion accessory too.
Lets think about it. The reason for forums is so that people can state their own views and hear from others. If it was really self-righteousness then why would i bother to post this up and listen to what others have to say? If I was that selfish, I might as well just lock myself in and think about how much i hate these people everyday. But no, I'm here because I want to hear views and I want to learn how to change my thoughts. I know that Im being selfish, but Im taking a step by listening to what others have to say. So why pinpoint me?
im actually talking about landscapes where you have no foreground subject. but let's not go off topic
Then you don't have confidence in your ability to perform better than a hobbyist.. Loads of professionals make do despite all these people being present.
confidence was never something i had in photography anyway. but i guess that's what keeps us going.
more importantly, many DSLR-owners are...let's not say stealing. More like replacing freelance photographers' jobs (save for events like wedding and the like). i believe you know that in Singapore it's never easy being a freelancer.
they're pinpointing you coz you utterly insulted those with DSLRs, which includes our friends. your username already insults like 20% of the world's population. so why not just learn from them? i understand how hard it is to get texts straight sometimes. it happens a lot to me too. my online friends used to think i'm Spanish just coz i sounded rude in texts, but in fact the tone in my mind as i type it didn't start out that way
It's because your question is a loaded question. You want to hear answers to make yourself feel good while making others look bad. I'll quote your first post (bolded emphasis to show you exactly where you are already putting others down):
Now, I have no issue with calling things as they are, as do some members here. However, you *are* overgeneralizing things. You know "these people" better than any of us do. Why do you need us, a bunch of strangers, to confirm your feelings? Why do we have to condemn "these people" whose fault only seems to be to have generous (and wealthy) parents and a differing view from you? You tried to "accomodate" us by initially using "teens" instead of "my friends" so we can relate better, but honestly, you do NOT care at all about the rest of the world, only a specific target group. And that's what we are calling you out on. Your argument essentially boils to this:
You: People who are X are stupid. Yes/No?
Us: Not all of them are. Why do you care? What have they ever done to you?
You: Actually I just mean my friends x1, x2 and x3. They're stupid. Yes/No?
Us: We don't know them. Who knows? x1 might turn out not to be stupid after all.
You: But *I* know them! And they're stupid! I know because Y!
Us: You're wrong about Y.
Why are you seeking our approval to put down your friends? Frankly, I don't think that's such a good attitude to take. You want a yes/no answer but we can't give a yes/no answer because we don't have all the facts. The "facts" you gave us (Y) is wrong and that's what we called you out on. In any case, you are the one in the best position to determine the suitability of your friends. What do you need us for?
Sorry for insulting your passion......i took up photography so that i can hang my camera to walk around the street.
I do that because i can afford it.
Have a nice day.
Anyway, TS, maybe it's because you haven't been here long enough. But in my short 2 years here, I have seen at the very least 10 of these threads talking about youngsters having DSLR. Same questions and everything. I don't get why you're intimidated by it or annoyed. They're just trying to climb up the circle of social hierarchy. I'm sucked in it. Most teenagers are.
Heck even adults are. Houses, clubs, cars... Do you really need so many cars, houses or clubs? You can only be at one place at a time. When you are able to answer that question, you've answered your own question
Edit: Anyway, read your question again. If owning a DSLR without a camera means insulting the passion of photography, does that means owning a car and having no passion in cars an insult to people with passion for cars. Worse, owning clothes without passion for fashion or style. That would be death sentence in Tim Gunn's world.
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To whom it may concern: do not burn bridges
If you ever believe in the 6 degrees of separation, the world is too freaking small not to leave a small backdoor for yourself to exit graciously should you need to or if ever the need arises. Not saying you should be a hypocrite or a diplomat. But there's a reason insurance is one industry that will never die out.
If you ever believe in the 6 degrees of separation, the world is too freaking small not to leave a small backdoor for yourself to exit graciously should you need to or if ever the need arises. Not saying you should be a hypocrite or a diplomat. But there's a reason insurance is one industry that will never die out.
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live and let die.
what lamergod was saying was that you OT-ed in the first place. then you told others not to OT.
what they're doing is trying to attract butterflies and moths to the flash of light, and catch them. for all you know, they're insect lovers.
TS, relax la. You can't envy other too much la. Like I dont own a car, I envy those young people owning 1? If you keep on comparing your life with others, you ended up suffering only. $ is nothing to most people, you will learn when you grows older.
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