[SunChasersSG] Newbies Outing Photo (Part 21) - Sunrise @ Marina Bay 27 Nov 2010

[Squid]

2. looks soft.
3. looks softer still. You can try to prefocus your camera first and set it to manual focus before carefully putting on your nd filter.

Thanks for the input. Will improve in next shooting based on your suggestion even though it was done as you suggested.

 

[daredevil123]

Thanks for the input. Will improve in next shooting based on your suggestion even though it was done as you suggested.

Hi Squid, this article might help you..

http://darthbertz.blogspot.com/2010/07/getting-everything-into-focus.html

 

[quizesilver]

my take for yester...

comment pls thks

 

[coolthought]

mimik07#2

Exif:
Focal Length: 21mm
Aperture: f/16
Exposure: 60 secs
ISO100

This #2 looks great. You have kept shooting even after the sun is up.
I was hoping more people is able to take such a shot.
and as well as a shot like this one below with the sun coming up from the cradle.

128.

The reason why I choose this place. Other than big enough to accommodate everyone, is that we have been taking MBS for so many times, it should be easier for the seniors to guide the newbies and focus on getting the basic right. Location is central and accessible for most people. And for the seniors who may be thinking that we have shoot MBS enough already. This is the time to try a little different technique. A little bit different approach. Polish up the basic to perfection.

and most important of all.... a sitting ledge for poisoning session while taking photos...:devil:

 

[coolthought]

Thanks for CT for squeezing me in for the outing

welcome.

Interesting colours but have you try other ways to post process this photo?

 

[coolthought]

Thanks for the input. Will improve in next shooting based on your suggestion even though it was done as you suggested.

you probably have moved the zooming or focusing ring.... just guessing.

 

[coolthought]

ZCA, thanks for timely reminder, I now remember that I miss the posting of one shoot CT, guess you are being stalked :thumbsup: organiser (p.s. CT - I guess you know how to get the larger version)

thanks to our tireless organizer! :thumbsup:

note to self.... carry a comb....:sweat:

 

[semino]

Hi Sunchasers, thanks for your support and guidance, I am 1st timer to sunchasers outing!

my earlier attempt to post photos in the thread failed,...

so I give my link to flickr site... pls. give comments if you have time to visit.

thanks,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/52996057@N04/

 

[Kit]

Hi all, good to have meet up with whole group of seniors/independents/newbies/friends.. I'm new to CS and good to put some faces to nicks..

My contribution back to the Outing:

#1 - Black Hour

#2 - Blue Hour

C & C welcome, be gentle OK ..

My humble shot..C & C mostly welcome..

[MBS #01]

Would like to contribute to a successful session.

The reason why I have not chosed to shoot MBS from the left side ever since the museum took shape is because the design and proportion of it is totally detached from the rest of the buildings in the MBS cluster. Hence placing the museum closer to the frame actually amplifies this uncomfortable fit and obstructs the first tower from full view. I feel that the rythem of the 3 towers is being distrupted unnecessarily. Further, the low-rise convention centre at the extreme right occupies a much bigger(longer) piece of the cluster. With a view from the left, you'd be left with too much space on the right of the photo. The composition becomes unbalanced. MBS was designed to be a cluster of buildings, hence the challenge is to photograph it in a way which reveals this design intention. This is directed to the 1st photo.

2nd and 3rd photo are slightly better where composition is concerned because the clearer separation of the buildings represents the design intentions. However, the problem with too much space over the low-rise convention centre which results in unbalanced compositions still persists. The 3rd photo is slightly more balanced with the Flyer but buildings on the extreme left start creeping in. This should be avoided.

Personally, I would still have gone for a head-on shot of this MBS from somewhere in front of One Fullerton, which is much further right of where these photos were taken to get a clearer separation between the buildings and obtain more balanced compositions. If I need to take the MBS from an alternate perspective, I will choose to take it from the Promontory. Placing the convention centre closer to you is better than having the museum in the foreground.

 

[SHLEW]

for #01 and #02, since this is not a silhouette shot, I find that the buildings tends to be a bit too dark and underexposed. Just look at other photos and compare with yours. Can't think of anything to help on this as there isn't any exif. Probably iso...

#01, Your horizontals are straight but the verticals lean in. This is simple because you pointed the camera slightly up creating a perspective distortion which is not desirable for this case. If you look at mine #01, it look straight after I did 2 corrections, lens distortion and perspective distortion were corrected during pp.

Generally I can see that you are trying hard to decide which part of the frame to start and end and trying to include both the flyer and MBS so that it will look good. You can use DD123 #01 as a good example of getting the whole photo looks balanced.

Thanks Yee for the advice. These are really newbie shots and I really have a lot to learn on the nitty-gritties on photography. This has been one of the best outings I've attended where my pictures get scrutinized by sifus and mistakes pointed out to me. Looking forward to more of these outings.:thumbsup:
Cheers.
LEW

 

[SHLEW]

ZCA, thanks for timely reminder, I now remember that I miss the posting of one shoot CT, guess you are being stalked ;p :thumbsup: organiser (p.s. CT - I guess you know how to get the larger version)

When trading resumes tomorrow morning, keep watch on Straits Trading - looks like its on an uptrend!:bigeyes:
Cheers.
LEW

 

[ClemC]

Would like to contribute to a successful session.

The reason why I have not chosed to shoot MBS from the left side ever since the museum took shape is because the design and proportion of it is totally detached from the rest of the buildings in the MBS cluster. Hence placing the museum closer to the frame actually amplifies this uncomfortable fit and obstructs the first tower from full view. I feel that the rythem of the 3 towers is being distrupted unnecessarily. Further, the low-rise convention centre at the extreme right occupies a much bigger(longer) piece of the cluster. With a view from the left, you'd be left with too much space on the right of the photo. The composition becomes unbalanced. MBS was designed to be a cluster of buildings, hence the challenge is to photograph it in a way which reveals this design intention. This is directed to the 1st photo.

2nd and 3rd photo are slightly better where composition is concerned because the clearer separation of the buildings represents the design intentions. However, the problem with too much space over the low-rise convention centre which results in unbalanced compositions still persists. The 3rd photo is slightly more balanced with the Flyer but buildings on the extreme left start creeping in. This should be avoided.

Personally, I would still have gone for a head-on shot of this MBS from somewhere in front of One Fullerton, which is much further right of where these photos were taken to get a clearer separation between the buildings and obtain more balanced compositions. If I need to take the MBS from an alternate perspective, I will choose to take it from the Promontory. Placing the convention centre closer to you is better than having the museum in the foreground.

Kit - Thanks for dropping by and providing valuable comments.. Heard quite a bit from Seniors about your outings & contributions.

#1 & #2 are my shots. Appreciate your C&C. I have never considered the architectural aspects when taking pictures of the MBS. i.e. never considered the visual balance that will be necessary and it is indeed necessary as you have enlighted & explained. My main concern at the shoot yesterday was to use black card technique to correct the exposure of the ball/palm (now I know museum) for both shot #1 & #2, capturing at black/blue hour and totally neglected the necessary architectural aesthetics. I guess I will now review shoots taken from the Promontory & one-Fullerton differently. I learnt 1-2 new things today, thanks KIT

 

[Jacobs]

Would like to contribute to a successful session.

2nd and 3rd photo are slightly better where composition is concerned because the clearer separation of the buildings represents the design intentions. However, the problem with too much space over the low-rise convention centre which results in unbalanced compositions still persists.The 3rd photo is slightly more balanced with the Flyer but buildings on the extreme left start creeping in. This should be avoided.

Personally, I would still have gone for a head-on shot of this MBS from somewhere in front of One Fullerton, which is much further right of where these photos were taken to get a clearer separation between the buildings and obtain more balanced compositions. If I need to take the MBS from an alternate perspective, I will choose to take it from the Promontory. Placing the convention centre closer to you is better than having the museum in the foreground.

Hi Kit, really appreciate you had chosed my pictures for giving your point of view..:thumbsup:
Thank you very much for providing this valuable information, hope have chance to learn more thing from you on coming future (if you plan to have outing)..

 

[quizesilver]

Would like to contribute to a successful session.

The reason why I have not chosed to shoot MBS from the left side ever since the museum took shape is because the design and proportion of it is totally detached from the rest of the buildings in the MBS cluster. Hence placing the museum closer to the frame actually amplifies this uncomfortable fit and obstructs the first tower from full view. I feel that the rythem of the 3 towers is being distrupted unnecessarily. Further, the low-rise convention centre at the extreme right occupies a much bigger(longer) piece of the cluster. With a view from the left, you'd be left with too much space on the right of the photo. The composition becomes unbalanced. MBS was designed to be a cluster of buildings, hence the challenge is to photograph it in a way which reveals this design intention. This is directed to the 1st photo.

2nd and 3rd photo are slightly better where composition is concerned because the clearer separation of the buildings represents the design intentions. However, the problem with too much space over the low-rise convention centre which results in unbalanced compositions still persists. The 3rd photo is slightly more balanced with the Flyer but buildings on the extreme left start creeping in. This should be avoided.

Personally, I would still have gone for a head-on shot of this MBS from somewhere in front of One Fullerton, which is much further right of where these photos were taken to get a clearer separation between the buildings and obtain more balanced compositions. If I need to take the MBS from an alternate perspective, I will choose to take it from the Promontory. Placing the convention centre closer to you is better than having the museum in the foreground.

interesting comment. sure enlighten me. look like nnb recent shot

128.

 

[ZerocoolAstra]

Kit, thanks for dropping by with your valuable comments
Good to be able to "see" it from a different perspective.

 

[Kit]

Kit - Thanks for dropping by and providing valuable comments.. Heard quite a bit from Seniors about your outings & contributions.

#1 & #2 are my shots. Appreciate your C&C. I have never considered the architectural aspects when taking pictures of the MBS. i.e. never considered the visual balance that will be necessary and it is indeed necessary as you have enlighted & explained. My main concern at the shoot yesterday was to use black card technique to correct the exposure of the ball/palm (now I know museum) for both shot #1 & #2, capturing at black/blue hour and totally neglected the necessary architectural aesthetics. I guess I will now review shoots taken from the Promontory & one-Fullerton differently. I learnt 1-2 new things today, thanks KIT

Yes, the lightings from the museum can be a headache. I don't use the black card to control the exposure though. If its a small portion of the photo, I'll usually adjust the brighter parts with the highlight/shadow sliders in PS. That works most of the time.

Just as important as getting the technicalities right, appreciating the design of buildings is crucial in working out compositions. Sometimes, it could be as straight forward as to just walk around the building looking for the best angle. Once you find that angle, you might still have to visit the building another time because the ambient light is not right for you to take the photo. In essence, the building is always there. You are the one who can really make it look different from the rest of the photos with your unique approach.

 

[Kit]

Hi Kit, really appreciate you had chosed my pictures for giving your point of view..:thumbsup:
Thank you very much for providing this valuable information, hope have chance to learn more thing from you on coming future (if you plan to have outing)..

No problem. I will if I can afford the time again. Perhaps middle of Dec

 

[Kit]

interesting comment. sure enlighten me. look like nnb recent shot

Yes, that's a perspective which I thought is worth exploring.

 

[Kit]

Kit, thanks for dropping by with your valuable comments
Good to be able to "see" it from a different perspective.

Always glad to help

 

[ClemC]

Yes, the lightings from the museum can be a headache. I don't use the black card to control the exposure though. If its a small portion of the photo, I'll usually adjust the brighter parts with the highlight/shadow sliders in PS. That works most of the time.

Just as important as getting the technicalities right, appreciating the design of buildings is crucial in working out compositions. Sometimes, it could be as straight forward as to just walk around the building looking for the best angle. Once you find that angle, you might still have to visit the building another time because the ambient light is not right for you to take the photo. In essence, the building is always there. You are the one who can really make it look different from the rest of the photos with your unique approach.

Visual balance should be applied to most photo.. today, you have emphasis that it should be considered more (especially) for buildings. Wonder if you have some background in architecture or mainly interest in photography that trigger you to read up a bit more for architectural shoots?

Yes, you have to make it right.. the approach of visiting a few time/period/etc goes for many, many shoots

Will be happy to attend if there is an "architectural walkabout" outing that you will lead