comments on 2100UZ??

[Klause]

Originally posted by Keito
The lost in detail is quite noticable after the processing

i agree. BTW:

Pro90IS if I'm not wrong is discountinued also. Save up for DSLR. hehe.

 

[zhapchit]

Originally posted by Jayan


Say properly which one don't buy - Olympus or Canon????

/me looks at the title....

 

[zhapchit]

Originally posted by MaGixShOe
i am tinking of upgrading to this cam

wat are the pros and cons of this cam?
and wats the current price at AP?
any additional accessories to get ?

wat's ur budget?

 

[luisg]

Originally posted by Jayan
Ok....here u go:

All pix taken using 1600x1200, TIFF, ISO100, F2.8, 16 sec, IS off, soft sharpening, auto WB, auto focus, and a mildly warmed up DC.

Hi,

a bit OT, what are the scenes or subjects that we need to use 16sec exposure? been using my uzi and have only use up to 4sec(night shots) which does not have any hotpixels. sure i will get hotpixels on 16sec though.

thanks

 

[MaGixShOe]

Originally posted by Jayan
Ok....here u go:

All pix taken using 1600x1200, TIFF, ISO100, F2.8, 16 sec, IS off, soft sharpening, auto WB, auto focus, and a mildly warmed up DC.

Post-processing involves converting to JPEG at medium compression rate.

http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~jakengsl/misc/1.jpg
Before.

http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~jakengsl/misc/2.jpg
Black frame.

http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~jakengsl/misc/3.jpg
After.

i dun see any difference leh

 

[MaGixShOe]

Originally posted by zhapchit


wat's ur budget?

budget quite limited leh......
pro90 1.5k?? hahaaha out of reach lah

guess i got to settle for the 2100uz liao.....
can someone calculate for mi how much is the 2100uz plus all the neccessary stuffs like lens adaptor, uv filter, cam bag?

 

[Jayan]

Originally posted by MaGixShOe
i dun see any difference leh

Look carefully at the black frame and u can see some hot pixels and other CCD noise....

 

[MaGixShOe]

Originally posted by Jayan


Look carefully at the black frame and u can see some hot pixels and other CCD noise....

ya i saw that
my question was the 1st and last pic

 

[Jayan]

Originally posted by zhapchit
/me looks at the title....

 

[Jayan]

Originally posted by MaGixShOe
ya i saw that
my question was the 1st and last pic

Oh I see....sorrie....misunderstood ur qn.

If u look carefully at the 2nd pix u can see that the hot pixels that appear in it appear in the 1st pix as well, but in the 3rd pix, the hot pixels are filtered off (some CCD noise remain though...).

 

[Klause]

C700uz and C2100uz is both ok lar for normal consumer. Good camera to start playing with if you are into photography. Quality wise(on the picture), it's not as good as those from canon. But in terms of functions, c700uz and 2100uz win them for sure.

 

[Jayan]

Originally posted by Keito
The lost in detail is quite noticable after the processing

Yup....I gotta admit that's a big probelm with lossy graphics compression methods like JPEG...cos every time you edit and save a file a bit (sometimes a lot...) of details are lost.

Using TIFF is much better but the file size is too big for practical use...a 128MB SM card can only take abt 22 1600x1200 TIFF pix.

In the above case, the TIFF was first processed by BlackFrame NR (which according to the proggie docs, will blur the pix a bit), and saving the 'after' pix in TIFF...then converted this pix to high compression rate JPEG (from 5MB to 100+KB!!!).....some details is definitely gonna be lost this way.

 

[Klause]

Tiff is too large. The amount of buffer on our camera will take a long time to write to the SM. If we are to take action shots, it will be very hard. 128mb -> 22 pic is pretty low.

 

[MaGixShOe]

Originally posted by Klause
C700uz and C2100uz is both ok lar for normal consumer. Good camera to start playing with if you are into photography. Quality wise(on the picture), it's not as good as those from canon. But in terms of functions, c700uz and 2100uz win them for sure.

i thought for function the pro90 will be better than the 2100 and 700 wat

anyway how much is the 700? much cheaper than the 2100uz?

 

[Klause]

Originally posted by MaGixShOe
i thought for function the pro90 will be better than the 2100 and 700 wat

anyway how much is the 700? much cheaper than the 2100uz?

If you compare functions -> price , olympus win.

If you compare function alone, of course a camera that cost nearly 2 x the price will have a better amount of functions.

The only point to note is that pro90is has terrible shuttle lag.

 

[megaweb]

Canon Pro 90 over Olympus C2100

• Slightly bigger mega pixel (2.6 megapixel)
• Swivel and better LCD
• Hot shoe support external ETTL flash
• Zero hotpixel for long exposure (up to 8sec)
• Good colours, stronger and more accurate than most, slightly cool skin tones
• ISO 50 give lesser noise
• Support RAW file format
• Cheaper Storage Media (CF and Micro-drive)

if you think the above features are not important to you , you can forget about getting a Pro 90

 

[Jayan]

Originally posted by Klause
Tiff is too large. The amount of buffer on our camera will take a long time to write to the SM. If we are to take action shots, it will be very hard. 128mb -> 22 pic is pretty low.

I usually reserve TIFF for portraits whereby I wanna capture every single details.....but the writing to the SM card takes forever man!!!

At 5.6MB per shot....128MB can only make 22 pix.

 

[Jayan]

Originally posted by MaGixShOe
i thought for function the pro90 will be better than the 2100 and 700 wat

anyway how much is the 700? much cheaper than the 2100uz?

Think C-700UZ and C-2100UZ abt same price now.....ard $900 ~ $950.

 

[Jayan]

Originally posted by Klause


If you compare functions -> price , olympus win.

If you compare function alone, of course a camera that cost nearly 2 x the price will have a better amount of functions.

The only point to note is that pro90is has terrible shuttle lag.

That's why cannot compare, not fair since the features are different....the Canon has more high-end features, but you must be willing to pay a price to get these.

 

[Jayan]

Originally posted by megaweb
Canon Pro 90 over Olympus C2100

• Slightly bigger mega pixel (2.6 megapixel)
• Swivel and better LCD
• Hot shoe support external ETTL flash
• Zero hotpixel for long exposure (up to 8sec)
• Good colours, stronger and more accurate than most, slightly cool skin tones
• ISO 50 give lesser noise
• Support RAW file format
• Cheaper Storage Media (CF and Micro-drive)

if you think the above features are not important to you , you can forget about getting a Pro 90

When is Canon gonna make a Pro90IS replacement model or Olympus for the C-2100UZ?????