D700 vs 5D Mark II

[brapodam]

Yeah agreed. Choose which camera's button location and the menu setting which make sense to you that can let you control more faster and comfortable. That is what you go with. If you already familiar with canon menu setting and system well, then suddenly jump to nikon I think you will be confused. :sweatsm:

Cheers,

Yup, suddenly lens mounting and zooming all opposite direction

 

[jdbatino]

If you don't need video, go with the d700 (i would have transferred if i didn't need video).

Ive got both a 7d and 5d2 , sometimes i wish i just had one main camera that has everything (which is probably the 1DmkIV which i refuse to buy) and a "cheapo" compact 2nd body.

But from what i see, you actually hate the thin DOF ability ? That makes an FF camera useless! lol.

what everyone is saying here is right, if you are afraid of shooting at wide apertures, just get the newest crop camera and you are good to go. The ISO advantage of a full frame camera is just 1.5 to 1 stop for light. a 7D with 17-55 2.8 lens is basically the same as a 5D with 24-105 F4 in terms of low light and DOF. You save a lot more money with 7D. and have lots of additional features to boot.

 

[mcn]

Hold both camera in your hand.
Which one do you like?
Which body feel better in your hand?
You must like the feel when you are holding it.

Canon lighter weight smaller body vs Nikon.

Buy what you like, wont go wrong with either brand.

u r rite

for me, the feel of the body is important variable

image wrapping your arms around Brad Pitt :kiss: and u will know what i mean

 

[henry soh]

Hi, 5DM2 is lighter and feel more comfortable to hold and easier to use. D700 has more buttons and more features with different operations which you have to get used to them if you have not used them previously.

 

[george671]

FF versus DX discussions aside, I'd just get the new D7000...I think it will give you outstanding Bang for the Buck...:bsmilie:

I think we all put to much emphasis on the Camera body anyway!:think:

Cheers
www.snakephoto.blogspot.com

 

[surrephoto]

IMHO;

D700 Pros

- Highly customizable AF (dedicated expansion switch aka dynamic af, 3D tracking if you need).
- Usable outer points. Not fantastic but at least decent.
- 8 fps with MB-D10. Very important point for event/sports shooters.
- Smaller files at 12 mpx. Customizable compression 12/14-bit raw.
- AUTO ISO in M mode, now this is a fierce one vs 5D2. :bsmilie:

D700 Cons

- A pig with 8 double AAs to pump 8 FPS.
- Yello... ahem, I mean "warmish" skintones. Yes subjective, but i've compared to D3 as well.
- Sucky rubber grip quality compared to any EOS.
- Super complex menus that will slow down newbies learning process. But i love it.

5D2 Pros

- Better asian (yes, we're asians, so this is a real concern for me currently) skintones out of box (subjective, but i very much believe so, D3 is better than D700 in this aspect as well).
- Highly accurate centre focus point.
- 21 mpx resolution, good for shoot-to-crop style.
- User friendly menus.
- C1, C2, C3 recall modes on dial.
- Nice big wheel to change settings with.
- VIDEO, no surprise here.

5D2 Cons

- Completely fail outer points. They are a sincere joke in lesser than optimal light.
- 4 fps, abit slow for events.
- Banding in shadows at ISO 100. But I think ISO 125 is actually ok.

 

[george671]

IMHO;


D700 Cons

- Yello... ahem, I mean "warmish" skintones. Yes subjective, but i've compared to D3 as well.
5D2 Pros

- Better asian (yes, we're asians, so this is a real concern for me currently) skintones out of box (subjective, but i very much believe so, D3 is better than D700 in this aspect as well).
5D2 Cons

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OT but get a Fuji S3 for portraits...Skin tones are great!

Cheers
www.snakephoto.blogspot.com

 

[raydio]

You can also go to the Canon showroom and try out the 5D MkII at VivoCity. I am sure that Nikon has an equivalent showroom so that you can try the D700.

Try them, experience them and see which is more comfortable. You can also bring your own CF card to take some shots and bring them home to compare.

 

[catohcat]

I usually shoot in a fast pace & complex lighting environment. These are the reasons that I choose D700 over 5D MkII:

+ Much better AF performance. On D700 it's like "Sir! yes sir!". On 5DMarkII it's like "Uh oh. Alright..."
+ I'm an expo disc user. With Nikon I can quicky change my custom WB with a press of button. For 5DMrkII you have to go through quite a number of steps.
+ Auto ISO in M mode as mentioned by surrephoto above. Usually my setting is ISO 400 with Flash and Auto-ISO without Flash. I can simultaneously change between these 2 modes by the Custom-Function button. This is a killer's function!
+ Built in flash: it does help when your main flash fails, or you need to control other speedlights.
+ Built-in Focus assist beam. All my friends who shoot Canon always bring a touchlight to shine on the model when doing low light studio shoot.
+ Nikkor 24-70 f.28 is much sharper & faster AF than Canon's version at f/2.8. This is the lens I use most of the time.

Nikon/D700 does have its cons:
+ No movie
+ Lower Resolution. Sometimes I do need to crop my pictures into better compositions.
+ Staight out from the camera, 5DMarkII gives better asian skintone, more contrast look than D700. Shooting angmoh, 5DMarkII gives too much reddish skintone. All of this you can adjust by in camera setting or PP.
+ D700's dynamic range is not as good as 5DMarkII. Thus transition between brightlight and its surrounding is not as good. Btw, Sony DSLR has the best Dynamic range
+ MB-10 Grip is kinda sux, The shutter button is pretty sensitive, I misfired quite a number of time with it. But if you put a D3 battery into it, i feel it made my D700 more responsive and quiet shutter sound.
+ Limited lens options compared to Canon. Recently released Nikon lens are quite disappointed compared to Canon's too, especially the 70-200 VRII & 85mm f/1.4.

In fact I'm waiting for the performance of the upcoming 5DMarkIII and perhaps 24-70 f2.8 MarkII (just patented), then I'll decide if I wanna switch to Canon

 

[surrephoto]

OT but get a Fuji S3 for portraits...Skin tones are great!

Cheers
www.snakephoto.blogspot.com

I think for angmohs & east asians is okay... but certain other ethnicities do have crappy skintone on fuji S3 from what i've seen. Theres really no perfect.

I usually shoot in a fast pace & complex lighting environment. These are the reasons that I choose D700 over 5D MkII:

+ Much better AF performance. On D700 it's like "Sir! yes sir!". On 5DMarkII it's like "Uh oh. Alright..."
+ Nikkor 24-70 f.28 is much sharper & faster AF than Canon's version at f/2.8. This is the lens I use most of the time.

For the case of N24-70 vs 24-70L... no doubt the quality of the canon is really hatable if you've had experience with the nikkor. Then again i've come to accept the canon as a perfectly usable lens, it's not that new btw.

I think it's case by case basis for AF. I've used a 5D2 regularly in canon days and still own a D700 for the 8th month now.

Some comparable/equivalent lenses are dogs in 1 system but fast in the other, vice versa.

Eg. EF 50 f1.2L/EF 50 f1.4 faster than N 50 f1.4G by a useful margin.
Eg. N 85 f1.4D very fast compared to the slow EF 85L I/II.

 

[sjackal]

Canon always have the nice, healthy creamy skin tones both for Caucasians and Asians.

With Nikon I am constantly frustrated by pinkish or reddish skin for Caucasians, yellowish for far eastern Asians, and orangeish for south eastern Asians.

But if you want better performance in the dark, its definitely Nikon for the focusing, better flash system, and better ISO (I know some Canon user will disagree on this but hey)

D700 menu is complex yes, but its meant to be like that so that users can customize it to be a super efficient and fast menu.

 

[jeff7id]

IMHO;

D700 Pros

- Highly customizable AF (dedicated expansion switch aka dynamic af, 3D tracking if you need).
- Usable outer points. Not fantastic but at least decent.
- 8 fps with MB-D10. Very important point for event/sports shooters.
- Smaller files at 12 mpx. Customizable compression 12/14-bit raw.
- AUTO ISO in M mode, now this is a fierce one vs 5D2. :bsmilie:

D700 Cons

- A pig with 8 double AAs to pump 8 FPS.
- Yello... ahem, I mean "warmish" skintones. Yes subjective, but i've compared to D3 as well.
- Sucky rubber grip quality compared to any EOS.
- Super complex menus that will slow down newbies learning process. But i love it.

5D2 Pros

- Better asian (yes, we're asians, so this is a real concern for me currently) skintones out of box (subjective, but i very much believe so, D3 is better than D700 in this aspect as well).
- Highly accurate centre focus point.
- 21 mpx resolution, good for shoot-to-crop style.
- User friendly menus.
- C1, C2, C3 recall modes on dial.
- Nice big wheel to change settings with.
- VIDEO, no surprise here.

5D2 Cons

- Completely fail outer points. They are a sincere joke in lesser than optimal light.
- 4 fps, abit slow for events.
- Banding in shadows at ISO 100. But I think ISO 125 is actually ok.

TS, trust him, he has been living in 2 systems :thumbsup:

Well Bro, but now you are tempted with D3

 

[jeff7id]

Eg. EF 50 f1.2L/EF 50 f1.4 faster than N 50 f1.4G by a useful margin.
Eg. N 85 f1.4D very fast compared to the slow EF 85L I/II.

But the N 85 f.1.4G is pretty slower compared with N 85 1.4D. Which is quiet disappointing.

I haven't compared between N 85 f.1.4G vs C EF 85L I/II. Anyone ?:think:

 

[george671]

I think for angmohs & east asians is okay... but certain other ethnicities do have crappy skintone on fuji S3 from what i've seen. Theres really no perfect.
.

I guese I've been lucky then, as I and several others have not seen the "crappy skin tones" of other ethinicities that you mention. I generally have both my S3's set to F1 (fujichrome film simulation) and I primarily shoot with studio lites...I also use D200's, a D90, a 5D, and more recently 2 oly pens (ep1 and e pl1)...Do you own one of the Fuji slr's?...Anyway, I'm hot on the new D7000 to replace my D200's...

Cheers

http://www.flickr.com/groups/319032@N24/
http://www.flickr.com/groups/fuji-s3/
http://www.flickr.com/groups/fujifilm__s3cros_pro/pool/with/4452053991/

 

[Hacker]

I asked the same questions when upgrading from the Canon 5D a while back. While the 5D Mk II has the slight edge in terms of VF coverage, cost, MP and the fact that I do not shoot higher than 800 ISO, I still went with the D700 for the Nikon lenses.

I really do not think there is any difference in real terms, but the flash system and the upgrade path to the D3s was a real bonus.

 

[surrephoto]

I asked the same questions when upgrading from the Canon 5D a while back. While the 5D Mk II has the slight edge in terms of VF coverage, cost, MP and the fact that I do not shoot higher than 800 ISO, I still went with the D700 for the Nikon lenses.

I really do not think there is any difference in real terms, but the flash system and the upgrade path to the D3s was a real bonus.

Yes, about the flash system part, canon really loses out.

I literally FE locked every damned thing when I was unsure back on my 5D1/1DsII. Situation is better with 5D2 (marginally), but nikon flash is certainly more predictable. And luckily, in doubt, nikon still has FV lock. Same thing basically.

 

[007]

Yes, about the flash system part, canon really loses out.

I literally FE locked every damned thing when I was unsure back on my 5D1/1DsII. Situation is better with 5D2 (marginally), but nikon flash is certainly more predictable. And luckily, in doubt, nikon still has FV lock. Same thing basically.

Bro, if you WERE only given a chance to get a body which one will you choose?
If can only choose 1 camp, which camp will you choose?

 

[surrephoto]

Bro, if you WERE only given a chance to get a body which one will you choose?
If can only choose 1 camp, which camp will you choose?

Bro... WHAT do you shoot?...

Well at the very least tell me WHAT you might be mainly shooting in the next 2 years. At a 3k budget for 1 body ONLY, my choice as follow;

Sports - Nikon D700
Events - Nikon D700
Portraiture - Canon 5D2
Photojournalism - Canon 1D3
Landscape - Canon 5D2
Weddings - Canon 5D2/1D3/Nikon D700

If your priority is lenses;

Must look nice -> Canon
Must be big aperture -> Canon
I suck wide-angle lenses -> Nikon
Cheap and good -> Nikon
Price = performance -> Nikon
I like good service and can kpkb at service centre -> CANON

 

[Hacker]

I would think sports you need a higher MP for cropping. Not so much for portraiture. I think both systems are equally good, but prices of Nikon lenses are mostly more compared to the Canon equivalent, e.g. 50mm f/1.4, 24-105L vs 24-120mm f/4.

Bro... WHAT do you shoot?...

Well at the very least tell me WHAT you might be mainly shooting in the next 2 years. At a 3k budget for 1 body ONLY, my choice as follow;

Sports - Nikon D700
Events - Nikon D700
Portraiture - Canon 5D2
Photojournalism - Canon 1D3
Landscape - Canon 5D2
Weddings - Canon 5D2/1D3/Nikon D700

If your priority is lenses;

Must look nice -> Canon
Must be big aperture -> Canon
I suck wide-angle lenses -> Nikon
Cheap and good -> Nikon
Price = performance -> Nikon
I like good service and can kpkb at service centre -> CANON

 

[airforce1]

Bro... WHAT do you shoot?...

Well at the very least tell me WHAT you might be mainly shooting in the next 2 years. At a 3k budget for 1 body ONLY, my choice as follow;

Sports - Nikon D700
Events - Nikon D700
Portraiture - Canon 5D2
Photojournalism - Canon 1D3
Landscape - Canon 5D2
Weddings - Canon 5D2/1D3/Nikon D700

If your priority is lenses;

Must look nice -> Canon
Must be big aperture -> Canon
I suck wide-angle lenses -> Nikon
Cheap and good -> Nikon
Price = performance -> Nikon
I like good service and can kpkb at service centre -> CANON

Best info. to take note.