it's never stated. there's no such rule.
will it be implemented since cser thats of pro-level starts to say they want to bring up the std? if so, pls let me know so i dereg. myself as i belongs to the group who cant make it.
it's never stated. there's no such rule.
will it be implemented since cser thats of pro-level starts to say they want to bring up the std? if so, pls let me know so i dereg. myself as i belongs to the group who cant make it.
will it be implemented since cser thats of pro-level starts to say they want to bring up the std? if so, pls let me know so i dereg. myself as i belongs to the group who cant make it.
the admins and moderators will have a discussion abt this issue that has been raised.
ClubSnap is started for like-minded individuals with a love of fotography where they can gather, discuss and share their experiences, works and passion. - this will never change.
pushing up the standard of fotography here isn't exactly a bad thing but we haf to keep in mind there're many of us here who are only interested to share their works.
we'll see how it goes.
To be fair this is an open forum so i dun see why the portraits area should only be exclusive to those who uphold a standard. We all started being crappy at one point or another. For people want to uphold a standard there's plenty of other places on the web for them to go. They're not the standard police so why should the mods and admins here be?
Guys, let me reiterate my original assertion again. I had never suggested that there should be a minimum standard set for all pictures before they can be posted. I had in fact said anyone can post anything within reasons.
What I am saying is, if we truly want to be a second to none portrait forum, the membership must work on getting there. Where is there?
We must comment honestly. We must give our opinion even if the comments may not be want the TS wanted to here. We must distinguished ourselves as a forum that gives meaningful and truthful feedback. If we continue the current ways, we will just be one of thousands out there.
Guys, let me reiterate my original assertion again. I had never suggested that there should be a minimum standard set for all pictures before they can be posted. I had in fact said anyone can post anything within reasons.
What I am saying is, if we truly want to be a second to none portrait forum, the membership must work on getting there. Where is there?
We must comment honestly. We must give our opinion even if the comments may not be want the TS wanted to here. We must distinguished ourselves as a forum that gives meaningful and truthful feedback. If we continue the current ways, we will just be one of thousands out there.
i thought we have critic corner for that, the rest of sub-forum is for us to sharing our work, be it good or bad? also, different people different std. i english not so good, what is within reason? whose reasons? is it yours or mine? i thought within reason is similar to min. std?
remember a cser shoot him and friends having fun dancing on table (not in the pub though), i find it fun but some female cser find it offensive / cheap. so how?
like some have posted in other thread, if u feel like giving comment, than give, if dont feel like it, just move on to the next. when individual wants their photo to be commented, they know there is a critic corner.
edit : so does it mean that i can post photos to share if it is not within reason (whatever that might be). what if i am only a hobbist and not looking to advance my skill? cant i just post snap shots? it is not like i posted snap shot in critic corner.
does it make sense "to upgrade the std of cs, lets do it to only portrait subforum"? if it doesnt, that means all subforum posting will also have to be within reason. will there any room for us who CMI?
I find that a big problem is the need for people to be able to accept constructive criticism, and also have the ability to agree to disagree.
often we find ridiculous 'wars' that are pure wordplay and picking on "you said this", which then degenerates into meaningless discussion. however, from participating in some overseas forums, i find that different opinions are accomodated, and there is no need to force the other person to see or conform to a certain point of view.
it struck me that this could be a by-product of the singaporean education system at work. we were taught in school that there is only one correct answer. all other answers are not acceptable. hence, even in discussions, we feel the need for everyone to agree that there is only one correct point of view. you either believe what i say, or you're wrong and i can call you names until you bow down to me.
sometimes i find it hard to comment on the pictures in the portraits sections. actually, make that most of the time. the photos look normal, nothing to scream about because they're just like asking my girlfriend to go to the park with me and shooting some pictures. what's there to comment on? you comment on the posing, they say "oh it's a group shoot, i cannot control posing". comment on OOF shots, wiseguys chip in "must all photos be sharp?". some 'models' look less than pretty, and actually detract from the image. then they say "don't comment on the model". but it's the final image that matters. everything is fair game, i believe.
ok, i better shut up now before someone says "why you talk so much? see your pictures leh. never see you post before, still come and slam everyone."
from an amateur poster point of view, I do believe everyone (99%) who post pics in CS tries his/her personal best to post the best shots he/she has. For me, I post my "best" shots to see how well other people like it. Sometimes the gets good response sometimes not so good but at least it helps me to judge how good my pics are. It is hard to get honest comments OFFLINE from people we know as they are just too polite to criticize. That I feel is a pretty impt function of the photo galleries of CS.
I really hope that CS do not discourage people from posting pics, be it good or bad. I don't think the TS intention is to restrict postings though rather encouraging more GOOD/VARIETY photos to be posted. Currently I think 90% of the pics in portraits seem to be from organised mass workshops. Maybe a workshop forum is a good idea.
What's CMI? Pardon the question.
the admins and moderators will have a discussion abt this issue that has been raised.
ClubSnap is started for like-minded individuals with a love of fotography where they can gather, discuss and share their experiences, works and passion. - this will never change.
pushing up the standard of fotography here isn't exactly a bad thing but we haf to keep in mind there're many of us here who are only interested to share their works.
we'll see how it goes.
What's CMI? Pardon the question.
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where like-minded individuals with a love of fotography can gather, discuss and share their experiences, works and passion.