What if I develop B/w Negatives as colour ?


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marcwang

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I heard it will come out as sepia ? Its terribly expensive here in Australia to develop B/W negatives. $1.10 per piece of photo including developing. If processed as colour film, the photos will come out as sepia ? And if I scan it using a film scanner, will it be sepia or b/w ?
 

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Originally posted by marcwang
I heard it will come out as sepia ? Its terribly expensive here in Australia to develop B/W negatives. $1.10 per piece of photo including developing. If processed as colour film, the photos will come out as sepia ? And if I scan it using a film scanner, will it be sepia or b/w ?
A good lab can print B&W negs onto colour paper with minimal colour cast (sepia or otherwise).

If you scan, it can be in whatever shades you want, sepia, pure B&W, blue, red, etc.

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Then ... would the processed negative be ruined when process in the colour negative way ? Or would I be able to reprint as b/w photo.
 

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Originally posted by marcwang
Then ... would the processed negative be ruined when process in the colour negative way ? Or would I be able to reprint as b/w photo.
No. If you shoot C41 B&W films like Kodak T400CN, Ilford XP2 Super, etc, they are processed via C41 (the colour processing process) anyway.

If you shoot traditional B&W like Kodak Tri-X, Ilford HP5, FP4, etc, the lab will have to process this the "B&W Way".

Either way, you can still print it the B&W way in a wet darkroom. The colour cast came from printing, not the processing.

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No it's not advisable. Use only bnw processing. But if u wanna try go ahead... but i doubt u'll have much effects. Buy CN film if u want to process bnw at color labs.
 

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Hi! I do not have my dark room. Is there anyone know whether the color lab can make a traditional B/W print on B/W paper for me? Is it good or too expensive to try.... :)
 

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Hi! I do not have my dark room. Is there anyone know whether the color lab can make a traditional B/W print on B/W paper for me? Is it good or too expensive to try.... :)
You asking about Colour Lab the lab, or are you referring to any generic lab? If you want a traditional B&W print on traditional B&W paper, try Fee Fee at Chinatown, near Chinatown Point.

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Originally posted by ckiang
You asking about Colour Lab the lab, or are you referring to any generic lab? If you want a traditional B&W print on traditional B&W paper, try Fee Fee at Chinatown, near Chinatown Point.

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I think he is talking about generic lab..
Anyway, he's based in Aussie right?
 

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I am looking to acquire a P&S as a everyday camera and hope to load it with B&W film to bring it with me everywhere I go.

Anyone can recommend me a multipurpose B&W film for use mainly in streetphoto taking? Please include the price of each roll and where to get it. Thanks

About this C41 process. Is this a cheaper way of printing b&w pictures?
 

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Thanks for reply. I am talking about the traditional B/W. Have tried C41 B/W. Do not like it. I like the real B/W print especially on fiber paper. So I hope any lab can help me to enlarge my negitives though I will lost the most interesting part in B/W.... :cry: I can not set up my darkroom now...

BTW: Is there any one know the price rang for a contact print and a 8R enlargment in Fee Fee or other lab? I mean the traditional B/W print?:dunno:
 

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To wormz777:
You can try TMAX-400. The 400 speed will be fast enough for general shots on street. The grain is fine. But it is traditional B/W. You can not use C41 in 1h color lab. :cool:
 

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Ruby Photo told me $9 for developing and contact 1 roll of B&W. About $1 odd for 3R size prints.

Konata's chromogenic B&W dev. and printing is no different from their usual charges.

do you need to pay extra for those fibre paper etc?
 

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I heard prices for developing a traditonal B&W cost ard $1.50 for a 4R which is too ex for me.

Is C41 B&W really bad? Can I buy C41 B&W film in those normal neighbourhood shops? Which one is recommended for normal street shooting?
 

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Originally posted by ckiang
No. If you shoot C41 B&W films like Kodak T400CN, Ilford XP2 Super, etc, they are processed via C41 (the colour processing process) anyway.

If you shoot traditional B&W like Kodak Tri-X, Ilford HP5, FP4, etc, the lab will have to process this the "B&W Way".

Either way, you can still print it the B&W way in a wet darkroom. The colour cast came from printing, not the processing.

Regards
CK
in terms of quality of the prints, whats the difference between tradditional B/W film on B/W paper and C41 B/W film on colour paper?

is the difference in price worth it?
 

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Originally posted by iceman
in terms of quality of the prints, whats the difference between tradditional B/W film on B/W paper and C41 B/W film on colour paper?

is the difference in price worth it?
Any B&W printed on colour printer usually has less contrast. The print is grayish, and blacks are usually not black enough, thus the thing looks rather "flat".

On real B&W paper, you can get blacker blacks and generally more contrast.

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CK
 

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What if I use colour film and dip it info b&w developer? Would it work, and wat special effects can I expect? :D
 

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What if I use colour film and dip it info b&w developer? Would it work, and wat special effects can I expect? :D
You can try then tell us. I have not heard of this sort of "Cross Processing" heh.

My guess is that you end up with funny looking B&W-type film.

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CK
 

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