That is definitely true, but not many models realise that. Since we are on the topic of organised shoots lets stick to it at the mean time.
Suggestion: Code of Conduct for Lingerine and Nude Organised Shoots
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That is definitely true, but not many models realise that. Since we are on the topic of organised shoots lets stick to it at the mean time.
Definition of Idealists:
a person who cherishes or pursues high or noble principles, purposes, goals, etc.
a person who represents things as they might or should be rather than as they are.
Revolution is a natural progression to improve the currently accepted norms that over time have proven to be outdated. If we do not progress, we are moving backwards.
Many great people in history were labelled as fools who are unrealistic and impratical. These movers and shakers of the Earth are criticised by people who fear change.
As Martin Luther King once said: " I have a dream ..... "
The Earth is there for those who dare to reach out their hands and grab it.
OT. It's alright to be idealistic, everybody does that at one point in time or another, it's easy. But what the world needs are people who can translate ideas for real life problems into real life solutions, oversee a situation from start to end, people like such do not come about easily. What we have plentiful are people who can implement solutions to partially solve problems.
Influence: Is just talking but no action
Right: An action that is regulated
There is a difference!
Only in your imagination do definitions like these exist, and I am not even taking them literally.
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Yes, models are part of organised shoots, and if you wish to impose a high bar on organisers, I don't see why we shouldn't impose a similar high bar on models. After all, if you have a pro organiser but a sucky model, results are just as disastrous. Hence, lets do it for everyone to even everything please - don't just selectively read my points.
CS does NOT authorise shoots. i think it has been mentioned that CS provides a space for people to organise activities... just as any forum/bulletin board. the only line-in-the-sand (so to speak) is no illegal activities. hence, due to the grey area, Admin has put a stop to the nude shoots until CS can find a viable way to allow these shoots without the sleaze.
and no... we DON'T earn advertising revenue. god, i wish we could... but the sad fact is we don't. the fee that advertisers and workshop organisers pay is to help to defray the costs of running our servers... which is barely enuf. AFAIK, our server upkeep costs are often from the pockets of our Admins Darren, Edmund and Simon (and Jason, before he stepped down due to family commitments).
while some of your suggestions have some merit, implementing them is problematic. another point is that it works both ways; you seem to place a lot of emphasis on organisers (and indirectly, the CS Admin/mod team) having some good sense. what about the models themselves? i believe someone has already pose this question to you.
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4569785#post4569785
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Averral, i've been thinking, why are you setting so many rules and regulations on behalf of 'all the models', seriously, on what grounds are you to implement the rules and tell everyone what to do & what not to do.
We're all open to discussions, but we definitely do not like being told to do things by force, the way you are suggesting is simply by force.
The world doesn't revolve around you, you have to remember that. If you are trying to be famous, yes, you have done that... if you want to make history, probably so... if you want to make everyone conform to your rules, no... and definitely no way.
Saw somewhere before, someone said, newspaper offer classified ads section, does the newspaper have the liability & social responsibility to monitor every ads that is posted there? or even any advertisements that is in the papers? So if anything goes wrong, do we go to the papers for misrepresentation or should we actually go to the advertiser? So if the advertisement says that there is a free consultation for 1st 10 customers, should the press ensure that there is confirmed 10 free consultation? Or if they say there is 100 goodies bags giveaway, the press must send a representative there to check all 100 goodies bags?
Perhaps you are too young and ignorant to view the bigger picture, but don't let it get into your head that everyone owes you a duty of care.
Averral, i've been thinking, why are you setting so many rules and regulations on behalf of 'all the models', seriously, on what grounds are you to implement the rules and tell everyone what to do & what not to do.
We're all open to discussions, but we definitely do not like being told to do things by force, the way you are suggesting is simply by force.
The world doesn't revolve around you, you have to remember that. If you are trying to be famous, yes, you have done that... if you want to make history, probably so... if you want to make everyone conform to your rules, no... and definitely no way.
Saw somewhere before, someone said, newspaper offer classified ads section, does the newspaper have the liability & social responsibility to monitor every ads that is posted there? or even any advertisements that is in the papers? So if anything goes wrong, do we go to the papers for misrepresentation or should we actually go to the advertiser? So if the advertisement says that there is a free consultation for 1st 10 customers, should the press ensure that there is confirmed 10 free consultation? Or if they say there is 100 goodies bags giveaway, the press must send a representative there to check all 100 goodies bags?
Perhaps you are too young and ignorant to view the bigger picture, but don't let it get into your head that everyone owes you a duty of care.
Just to clarify in case the message is mis-construed. We do earn some money from the advertising banners that members see splattered in various locations around the forum as well as from subscriptions to organise photoshoots and mass sales. So far this year, our costs have been covered by the various inflows, and the more accurate statement would be "We don't make any profit from the forums."
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and i can find lots of "ahem" questionable ads in TNP
what i want to know is, why do you hit on the community and not the photographer
in my many years of experience, i know that the modelling industry is not very clean
there are lots of things that go on behind closed doors
beauty contest, both male and female also have lots of "ahem" questionable going ons.
XMMs must know what they are getting themselves into when they decide to promote their services
does their parents know what they are doing???
I am sure they will not approve
what i want to know is, why do you hit on the community and not the photographer
in my many years of experience, i know that the modelling industry is not very clean
there are lots of things that go on behind closed doors
beauty contest, both male and female also have lots of "ahem" questionable going ons.
XMMs must know what they are getting themselves into when they decide to promote their services
does their parents know what they are doing???
I am sure they will not approve
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Thumbs up 
The hitting is done on the wrong platform, on the wrong people, and at the wrong group
The hitting is done on the wrong platform, on the wrong people, and at the wrong group 
:thumbsup:well said and hit the nail on the head. The whole thing is just screams of someone trying to claw for her 15 minutes of infamy.
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