Tell me about it. Fashion shows without issues, everybody was polite to each other, after the shoot, canon, nikon wtf all go for dinner/drinks talk **** session. Taking leave to meet and shoot for a few hours.Garion said:It is indeed sad to see such threads degenerating into all out slagging at each other. I remember a time in the distant past when most of us were relative newbies, lugging prosumer or PnS cams or SLRs and got together for shoots...damn fun and camaraderie was definitely there. No politics, brand wars or whatsoever.
What helpful spirit was there? Everybody was quick to ask, nobody was quick to share what they've learned, those helpful ones already gave up answering the questions again and again and when asked to search it's derision and scorn? Does it have anything to do with ugprading of gears? I think it has something to do with the newer people?Garion said:Time passes, people upgrade, get new gear etc. Forum grows bigger, all sorts of ppl join. I think with the passage of time, people change, and sometimes tend to forget once they were newbies too, and start treating newcomers asking basic questions with derision and scorn. The helpful, sharing spirit that was present at all four corners of the forum has now mostly dissipated and more OT and personal flame posts have surfaced. I do not know what caused this, but yes the forum has changed quite a bit from what it was two or so years ago. (for the worse?)
Probably upgrading of gears did count towards me getting despised for using a PnS and getting the eye-look-up-down action, and also people who've taken a step further into photography and/or a different level to now look down on others and be sacarstic to others?
I'd say it's an ego and pride issue.
Not forgetting those who are senior and constantly on the prowl for targets. There does exist. There are helpful ones which are no longer around, you know who they are.Garion said:But still I am glad to observe there are still many generous and kind folks around in CS, just that they aren't that active around here sometimes.
Tell me about it. Unnecessary flamebaits, brainless flames and constant edging of others to bite into it and take that excuse to blow things up. Repetitive posts with potential flamebaits trying again and again to lure one another into anal fights & vulgar/crude remarks and yet can claim that they aren't crass.Garion said:But on the whole I still hope the forum will change for the better, lets all be more understanding and tolerant of one another, and share what we have learned with all. As one saying goes, "Shoot more, talk less." Cheers to all.
How to change for the better unless the jokers themselves decide to let things go and accept the way they were and how this forum is? Everyday I get somebody trying to lay a trap for me. They know who they are. It's bothersome to even bother unless I feel I'm up to it.
If you want to say "shoot more, talk less", tell that to those who just do nothing but does potential flamewars/baits all day long.
I've said enough and think that it's time to move on, things have always been ugly when people don't like me try means and ways to irritate me and often I try not to retaliate because it's of no point.
Yet, nothing can be done because I'm the 22K post count espn that for no reason everybody else (who doesn't know me) thinks I'm arrogant and boastful of this fact.
Oh, bother, what's the point. I've long given up.