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elliuzion

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Would like to get a camera for self use but as a beginner i know nuthing abt SLR/DSLR. Looking for something easy to handle and cheap. Thanks for the advise in advance. *bow*
 

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Would like to get a camera for self use but as a beginner i know nuthing abt SLR/DSLR. Looking for something easy to handle and cheap. Thanks for the advise in advance. *bow*
cheap = how much...
 

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maybe if you state your budget and what you really want and look for in a camera,

we will be able to provide more accurate advice.

anyway, welcome to the club :)
 

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Would like to get a camera for self use but as a beginner i know nuthing abt SLR/DSLR. Looking for something easy to handle and cheap. Thanks for the advise in advance. *bow*
In addition to the budget, which cameras have you tried / used so far? Knowing nothing about (D)SLR doesn't mean necessarily knowing nothing about photography.
Welcome to ClubSNAP :)
Read the sticky threads here, browse the forum. Plenty of information here. Invest you time and your gain is knowledge :)
 

elliuzion

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ya thanks for the warm welcome.

actually i am looking ard see is there anything below 800 bucks.

ok.. basically i am just fasinated by photos taken by frens. i have no idea how to describe wat am i look for. i just love the focusing and the colours and the brightness of those photos. and I have a son of 13 mths and mainly he will b my model. some frens did recomment me G10 and LX3. Just wanna find out more for now.
 

Rashkae

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For under 800, you *may* be albe to get a b-new Sony A230, or a Pentax. Other than that it would be second hand.

and the most important question to ask is... Do you really need a DSLR? Might just be better to get a good compact, because with a DSLR you'll normally be expected to do some post-processing.
 

elliuzion

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i am a part time web designer, so abit of post processing(editing??) i am fine with it. unless u are telling me abt things i seriously dunno. =)

I just can't seems to get thr right feel of watever I want using a compact. I have 2 compacts which still can't satisfy me u see.

wat kinda budget should i have for a decent SLR/DSLR?

I know G10 is a SLR. Can I ask wat is the diff between SLR and DSLR? I only know that D is digital.
 

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For under 800, you *may* be albe to get a b-new Sony A230, or a Pentax. Other than that it would be second hand.

and the most important question to ask is... Do you really need a DSLR? Might just be better to get a good compact, because with a DSLR you'll normally be expected to do some post-processing.

DSLR do have pictures in Jpeg format, so I don;t see why there is any expectation to do post processing.

If you up your budget a couples of tens, you can actually get a Oly 420 for 800+, some more comes with twin lens.

If the TS is looking to shoot his 13 month old child, the I would say go for a DSLR because the focusing speed of most PnS will not be able to keep up with the kid........
 

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i am a part time web designer, so abit of post processing(editing??) i am fine with it. unless u are telling me abt things i seriously dunno. =)

I just can't seems to get thr right feel of watever I want using a compact. I have 2 compacts which still can't satisfy me u see.

wat kinda budget should i have for a decent SLR/DSLR?

I know G10 is a SLR. Can I ask wat is the diff between SLR and DSLR? I only know that D is digital.
G10 is NOT an SLR. It's a bridge camera, a so-called "prosumer". It's an advanced compact camera. An SLR uses film, a DSLR is an electronic sensor.

What "feel" are you going for? if you can't master composition with a compact, a DSLR is not going to improve it. :)

If you up your budget to 1000, you'll have quite a list of DSLRs to choose from, though anything from Canon Nikon, Sony, Pentax and Olympus is decent.
 

Rashkae

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DSLR do have pictures in Jpeg format, so I don;t see why there is any expectation to do post processing.
Because compact cams will do a lot of in-cam processing to get "consumer friendly" shots immediately, while DSLR images tend to be more neutral to give you more creativity. I was not referring to JPEG vs. RAW.

If you up your budget a couples of tens, you can actually get a Oly 420 for 800+, some more comes with twin lens.

If the TS is looking to shoot his 13 month old child, the I would say go for a DSLR because the focusing speed of most PnS will not be able to keep up with the kid........
 

elliuzion

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focused shots? soft feels? not as lifeless as a compact gives?
 

Rashkae

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focused shots? soft feels? not as lifeless as a compact gives?
Hmm... You may want to invest in a simple DSLR body then, and a 50mm f/1.4 or 1.8 lens. Both together, b-new, should be less than 1k.

Second hand, maybe 600-700.
 

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Because compact cams will do a lot of in-cam processing to get "consumer friendly" shots immediately, while DSLR images tend to be more neutral to give you more creativity. I was not referring to JPEG vs. RAW.
OK....maybe I am missing something here......:think:
 

elliuzion

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yeah.. i tot of a simple one will do. not those complicated with extended lens or so on. just a simple n easy to use.
 

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ya thanks for the warm welcome.

actually i am looking ard see is there anything below 800 bucks.

ok.. basically i am just fasinated by photos taken by frens. i have no idea how to describe wat am i look for. i just love the focusing and the colours and the brightness of those photos. and I have a son of 13 mths and mainly he will b my model. some frens did recomment me G10 and LX3. Just wanna find out more for now.
son of 13mths... i suppose u need at least a DSLR to prevent missing unforgetable moments.. that is my experience at least... PNS shutter lag will cause u to take pic of what u dnt intent to shot, n in the mean time lost what u intend to shot... i have both a pns n DSLR, both is necessary, as u cant bring DSLR to a pool... ppl will think i am crazy.... there is alot of waterproof bags for PNS, and even take under water shot at less than 50 bucks...

if u intend to hold on to it long, dnt buy used, i am all the while against buying used... all the best in ur search...
 

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i am a part time web designer, so abit of post processing(editing??) i am fine with it. unless u are telling me abt things i seriously dunno. =)
If you are familiar with simple photoshop tools (or any other like PaintShop, Gimp etc.) then that shouldn't be a problem for you. As Rashkae mentioned: the output of a DSLR is more neutral (ok, some lower end models now also have image styles and stuffs comparable to compacts), reason being that the photographer still has all possibilities to develop the image into the intended result.

wat kinda budget should i have for a decent SLR/DSLR?
800 can be a budget for 2nd hand camera. But ask the other way around: how much can you spare safely. It's a hobby after all, not essential as food.

I know G10 is a SLR. Can I ask wat is the diff between SLR and DSLR? I only know that D is digital.
G10 is not a DSLR. Read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSLR
You are right, the D stands for Digital - the way the image is recorded. SLR cameras use film.
 

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Octarine

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yeah.. i tot of a simple one will do. not those complicated with extended lens or so on. just a simple n easy to use.
It's not the features of a camera that make it complicated :) - features can be switched off. It's rather the understanding of light and how to adjust the camera so that a proper picture comes out. With DSLR the brain work comes to you whereas a Point and Shoot ... as the names goes.
 

elliuzion

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son of 13mths... i suppose u need at least a DSLR to prevent missing unforgetable moments.. that is my experience at least... PNS shutter lag will cause u to take pic of what u dnt intent to shot, n in the mean time lost what u intend to shot... i have both a pns n DSLR, both is necessary, as u cant bring DSLR to a pool... ppl will think i am crazy.... there is alot of waterproof bags for PNS, and even take under water shot at less than 50 bucks...

if u intend to hold on to it long, dnt buy used, i am all the while against buying used... all the best in ur search...
i dun mind spending more on a quality one. budget is not exactly a problem. just want the price to b the lowest for my needs.

i have a underwater compact which can capture good moments under the water. love it to the max. but on ground.. is abit... less satisfying.
 

elliuzion

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It's not the features of a camera that make it complicated :) - features can be switched off. It's rather the understanding of light and how to adjust the camera so that a proper picture comes out. With DSLR the brain work comes to you whereas a Point and Shoot ... as the names goes.
there is definately a need to learn of coz. getting a "correct" DSLR is only the first step for my On Job Training. there are more question to come after i have search for the right one. =)
 

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