Photographer's Etiquette (Again)
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LazerLordz
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Skill, positioning and anticipation of movement.Those are the key elements in good event photography.Not always the huge equipment.Certain shots are better taken with a small digicam or rangefinder.
Your blood pressure goes up when u get angry. No good for ur heart.n0d3 said:
When u frown, u get frown lines and expend lotsa energy and flex lotsa muscles.
Either u ignore them and waste no energy or if u insist, all it takes is just 3 muscles to extend ur middle finger to them with an expressionless look.
I lazy to tok much to idiots these days.
U noe wad?Wai said:
That sounds EXACTLY like what I did when I was a noob with my 300D. :bsmilie: Nowadays, I try to pre-focus, estimate distance, raise up, 1-shot-1-kill.
U can fire 100 shots and spot on 1 shot. But you are still nothing compared to a 1-shot-spot-on guy.
As a sniper, I guess u know this principle by heart liao.
Well, for this I got a suggestion.arampan said:
Just fire off the most curt words u'd said in ur life, "Scram." and give him a nice butt with ur butt.
In an event, I'll usually let the official photographer have the courtesty of the first shot, I'll take the second. Any idiots butting in between the 1st take and my take with have the nice honour of 1 flash overwhelming their miniscular built-in flash.
insignificant.i
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n0d3 said:
so that's you......
synapseman
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It's really unfortunate that you ran into such people. Unfortunately, yours isn't the first such story I've heard. It is very annoying when people give you advice (in a condescending manner) when you didn't even ask for any. I do understand why some photographers always seem to fight for position. I guess it's their ricebowl and they need to do what it takes to get that shot. But during their downtime, it's their behaviour towards other photographers that's really annoying.
Especially those who openly criticise your equipment.
I remember when I was just starting out, I scrimped and saved for my first SLR set, a Sigma SA-300n. $630 was a hell lot of money in those days (still is!). Then this pro walks up to me, points and say, "this one yours, ah? I think you better go and sell it lah". Needless to say, being a young beginner then, that was a real blow to me. From then on, I developed an aversion to photographers, especially those with expensive equipment. Took me a long time to break away from that kind of thinking.
But it wasn't all bad news for me, though. Shot a wedding for a relative using a prosumer digicam, and a $299 Olympus film ZLR. Yup, I got the sneers again, but the wedding couple really liked my shots and to me, that's all that matters.
Nowadays, when I run into intimidating, condescending photographers, I just smile it off. You say my camera is crap, so be it, lorrrr...
Especially those who openly criticise your equipment.
I remember when I was just starting out, I scrimped and saved for my first SLR set, a Sigma SA-300n. $630 was a hell lot of money in those days (still is!). Then this pro walks up to me, points and say, "this one yours, ah? I think you better go and sell it lah". Needless to say, being a young beginner then, that was a real blow to me. From then on, I developed an aversion to photographers, especially those with expensive equipment. Took me a long time to break away from that kind of thinking.
But it wasn't all bad news for me, though. Shot a wedding for a relative using a prosumer digicam, and a $299 Olympus film ZLR. Yup, I got the sneers again, but the wedding couple really liked my shots and to me, that's all that matters.
Nowadays, when I run into intimidating, condescending photographers, I just smile it off. You say my camera is crap, so be it, lorrrr...
Castlesinthesky
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came in a little late....but please refer to my thread
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=140794
:bsmilie:
obviously there are some PROS too, who think nothing of etiquette, i've got a (nikon) witness too!
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=140794
:bsmilie:
obviously there are some PROS too, who think nothing of etiquette, i've got a (nikon) witness too!
Jemapela
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Hi all,
Sarcasm, mockery, pushing, shoving, monkey faces, middle-finger gestures, etc, seem to suggest something. Putting down the competition.
In another recent thread titled "Newbies and events/wedding photographers" in the Kopitiam subforum, I said "Events and weddings just seem to be the favourite flavour of the pie in S'pore, and no wonder, the pie is getting smaller for everyone. (It's already very small.)".
See http://forums.clubsnap.org/showpost.php?p=1406765&postcount=23
I'm sure you would have seen other camera-users taking snapshots of the said event on an unofficial capacity. Few months from now, a few of these snapshot hobbyists may upgrade themselves to the status of freelancers or even professionals. Then, with an official/press pass hanging off their necks, they will either stand beside you or step into your way.
Everyone is trying to outdo, outperform, outwit, and outlast the other. Some will inevitably, mostly due to their insecurity, strike below the belt. You scream unfair, but there is no umpire in this photography "game" of trying to get a shot, or the best shot. Nobody will raise a red card and send the offending photographer off the event. Etiquette and whatever acceptable rules we make up for ourselves can't be enforced and policed, so some will play foul.
We don't live in a world of completely nice people. We just have to cope and live with it.
Sarcasm, mockery, pushing, shoving, monkey faces, middle-finger gestures, etc, seem to suggest something. Putting down the competition.
In another recent thread titled "Newbies and events/wedding photographers" in the Kopitiam subforum, I said "Events and weddings just seem to be the favourite flavour of the pie in S'pore, and no wonder, the pie is getting smaller for everyone. (It's already very small.)".
See http://forums.clubsnap.org/showpost.php?p=1406765&postcount=23
I'm sure you would have seen other camera-users taking snapshots of the said event on an unofficial capacity. Few months from now, a few of these snapshot hobbyists may upgrade themselves to the status of freelancers or even professionals. Then, with an official/press pass hanging off their necks, they will either stand beside you or step into your way.
Everyone is trying to outdo, outperform, outwit, and outlast the other. Some will inevitably, mostly due to their insecurity, strike below the belt. You scream unfair, but there is no umpire in this photography "game" of trying to get a shot, or the best shot. Nobody will raise a red card and send the offending photographer off the event. Etiquette and whatever acceptable rules we make up for ourselves can't be enforced and policed, so some will play foul.
We don't live in a world of completely nice people. We just have to cope and live with it.
If you have the skills, then this wouldn't bother you a lot, would it? The professionals aren't bothered, so why bother yourself?Jemapela said:
Huh? This world is all about besting others, you mean topping the classes, doing what others can and better is called insecurity? :think:Jemapela said:
Jemapela
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espn said:
I didn't realise that I "sounded" bothered. I'm not bothered. I just wrote what I saw/experienced, perhaps a truth that some don't realise or don't want to hear of.
What's "besting"? I don't understand how being genuinely good in one's craft can lead to insecurity. In the case of the rude photographers who mocked the thread starter with "like this also can ah?", I don't believe he was feeling secure, that means insecure.
It's an unspoken truth that many photographers, professional or otherwise, are actually secretly insecure about their abilities. It's in Singapore, it's in Australia, it's everywhere. Most interestingly, it's almost always the male photographers.
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