Panasonic GH3

[garyyyyt]

What are some of the good sony cameras to consider?

 

[eleveninth]

What are some of the good sony cameras to consider?

FS700 since u want to do video

 

[garyyyyt]

FS700 since u want to do video

That really pricey, my budget is around 2-3k

 

[ageha]

What are some of the good sony cameras to consider?

I thought this thread is about the GH3?

 

[Bamboopictures]

If your primary interest is video, the Sony VG20 is available here and now. Why shoot with DSLR when you can get better audio, APS-C sensor, auto-focus, better stabilisation AND at a lower price? If you like the idea of power zoom, wait for the VG30. If you prefer full frame sensor, get the VG900.

 

[ageha]

Can someone recommend me a good frying pan?

 

[eleveninth]

Can someone recommend me a good frying pan?

happy call double sided pan!

 

[Deunamist]

Panasonic LUMIX GH3 "Amore Mio" (MAIN STORY) - YouTube

 

[kandinsky]

Btw, there's also a thread in the m4/3 section:
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/four...nnounces-gh3-images-full-press-release-3.html

Ongoing review by Nick Driftwood:

https://vimeo.com/54568906
https://vimeo.com/54265503
https://vimeo.com/54362801
https://vimeo.com/54561934
https://vimeo.com/54682759
https://vimeo.com/54820785

[Links because limited to one embed per post, and I'd rather not spam multiple posts]

 

[RyanKhoo]

Hi there,

Owners of GH3, will you be kind enough to confirm that our Spore PAL model of GH3 can record video for unlimited continuous time and not affected by the 29 mins 59 secs limitation ?

I have checked the panasonic specs in the website and this what they say:

DMC-GH3 Lumix G Compact System Cameras (DSLM) - Panasonic

it says that for NTSC, the GH3 can take videos as below:

Motion Image (MOV*1 : NTSC area) [Full HD]1920×1080, 30p (sensor output is 30p, 72Mbps(ALL-Intra))


but for PAL system, it has a qualification with *3 as below:

Motion Image (MOV*1 : PAL area) [Full HD]1920×1080, 25p (sensor output is 25p, 72Mbps(ALL-Intra))*3

if we see at the Note *3, it says, under Note 3 that,
*3 Motion images can be recorded continuously for up to 29 min 59 sec in European PAL areas.

Question 1:
SInce in Singapore, our PAL cameras is not European PAL, can we assume that Asian PAL is not affected. In short, am I correct to say that in Asian set of Asian PAL, the limit of the continuous length of time the video can be recorded is the limited by the size of memory card ?

However, in the same page, if you click the tab "Video Recording Performance":
DMC-GH3 Lumix G Compact System Cameras (DSLM) - Panasonic

it was printed that:

The GH3 is capable of recording continuously for an unlimited time**.

(This time it has a two **).

Under the **, it says "In the model for PAL areas, motion image can be recorded in 29 mins 59 secs."

So, there seemed to be a discrepancy with their specs, all within the same website !!

Question 2
How come now they just say "PAL areas" instead of European PAL ?

Hopefully owner of GH3 can shed some light to this.

Thanks

 

[eleveninth]

what did i just read?

 

[kandinsky]

From what I understand, because the additional tarriff (cameras that shoot beyond 29:59 are classified as video cameras) that Panny wants to avoid only applies to EU regions, that time limit restriction was built only into PAL models for EU regions. Thus the distinction between PAL EU and all other PAL areas. Conclusion: PAL models designated for all other regions do not have that restriction.

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Btw, you asked the same question in another thread and Agrivar already addressed it:

Yes, bro. I am confused.

Can I ask, how come my Sony Nex 5 has a 29 mins limit when taking video ? (I bought this Nex 5 in Spore)

If I am not mistaken, even cameras like Canon 5D Mark II that is selling in Singapore also have this 30 mins limitation when taking video.

Thanks

Probably these vendors are not selling different models. All the panasonics I've used dont have This limitation. Best you ask sony n canon why they don't differentiate.

Check here
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3112114

Quoted by someone on dpr
"All Canon and Sony (dunno about other companies) both have a record limit of 29:59 because of those taxes. They don't want to make and sell different versions of the same camera. People would not buy one and buy the other off of ebay or something. Also, most of the DSLR's made by Canon and Sony can't record till 29 anyways because of the 12 minute card limit on the Canon and the overheating on the NEX. "

Someone else posted "The limit is definitely NOT in North American versions of the Panasonic GH1 or GH2. I know this because I have a GH1and it has been a well discussed issue since the GH1 was originally released"

This write postulates that this limit is due to mpeg codec licensing
http://photo.stackexchange.com/ques...-the-1080p-film-video-recording-time-duration

So many reasons.. But in terms of tax, as far as I know Asia has no such tax. Perhaps panny using avchd also bypasses the mpeg licensing, nett is that this isn't a problem for Panasonic lumix g cams. I've used G2 Gh2 Gf3 GH3 all shoot unlimited video till the card Is full.

In this Spore Panasonice webpage:
LUMIX DMC-GH3 | Panasonic

it says that Note*3: Motion images can be recorded continuously for up to 29 min 59 sec in European PAL areas.

So, how do we avoid purchasing Europe sets ?

That's a disclaimer for sets sold in the EU. Sg sets can shoot over 30min. Here's a photo I just took. Look on left side of display. Recording 31 min. With remaining 1hr + more. Up to max space on my sdcard.

different usage.. i do record events.. including concerts. most of the time i record event by event during the concert. Sometimes Im asked to record the entire event. This can be 2hrs or more...so yes. lots of usage for recording over 30min. Some wedding videographers may want to record the entire church ceremony etc.. depends

 

[RyanKhoo]

Conclusion: PAL models designated for all other regions do not have that restriction.

Thanks. I think so too.

But the specs in Panny website seemed to be confusing & contradictory. So, the better confirmation is to get confirmation from owners of GH3 here.

Hence, I posted here & ask.

Thank you very much.

 

[RyanKhoo]

... you asked the same question in another thread and Agrivar already addressed it:

Thanks I was searching for it but cannot find it. My apologies

Thanks again.

 

[RyanKhoo]

Watch this when you are free:

Panasonic Presents Ira Block and the LUMIX G Series - YouTube

 

[Bamboopictures]

Watch this when you are free:

Panasonic Presents Ira Block and the LUMIX G Series - YouTube

At 1:19, Ira said he would not take the GH3 for assignments which require high ISO 3200 and above.

 

[RyanKhoo]

At 1:19, Ira said he would not take the GH3 for assignments which require high ISO 3200 and above.

At 1:19, Ira was comparing the Canon lens & the m4/3 lens leh.

U sure u got the timing correct ?

Thanks

 

[Bamboopictures]

At 1:19, Ira was comparing the Canon lens & the m4/3 lens leh.

U sure u got the timing correct ?

Thanks

Sorry, it should be 39:24. In later Q&A, he said quality was very good at ISO1600, good at ISO2400.

 

[RyanKhoo]

Sorry, it should be 39:24. In later Q&A, he said quality was very good at ISO1600, good at ISO2400.

What condition we need ISO beyond 2400 ?

In say, in Night Safari, we need to bump up the ISO until what number ?

Thanks

 

[Bamboopictures]

What condition we need ISO beyond 2400 ?

In say, in Night Safari, we need to bump up the ISO until what number ?

Thanks

If you are shooting handheld indoors in only available light (no flash) with a kit lens f3.5 or slower, even ISO2400 won't be sufficient for candid motion shots. Night Safari forbids flash photography, you'll be lucky to get anything in the shadows at ISO12800.