[ New Gear ] Panasonic announces the GH3 (with images and FULL press release)
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jackwolf said:
Didn't even know it's the same.
So they just didn't make use of the sensor's multi aspect ratio in the G5?At 6:23, it says no more half-hour limit ! That's great !
Really ? How come now the tax system allowed more than 30 mins not to be classified as video ?
Where can we buy this GH3 in Spore ? (Where is SLRR)
Thanks
Really ? How come now the tax system allowed more than 30 mins not to be classified as video ?
Where can we buy this GH3 in Spore ? (Where is SLRR)
Thanks
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RyanKhoo said:
Bro. To clarify. In Asia and in sg there is no 30 min video tax,so no 30 min recording limit. This is a tax for EU countries. So any gh3 bought in Asia or JP or anz doesn't have this limitation.
For the video, I suspect that for USA and Canadian sets the previous gh2 was crippled with this limitation and that the gh3 has no such limitation. But whatever the case no issues with any panny lumix g here in sg not able to shoot over 30 min.
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Yes, bro. I am confused.
Can I ask, how come my Sony Nex 5 has a 29 mins limit when taking video ? (I bought this Nex 5 in Spore)
If I am not mistaken, even cameras like Canon 5D Mark II that is selling in Singapore also have this 30 mins limitation when taking video.
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RyanKhoo said:
Probably these vendors are not selling different models. All the panasonics I've used dont have This limitation. Best you ask sony n canon why they don't differentiate.
Check here
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3112114
Quoted by someone on dpr
"All Canon and Sony (dunno about other companies) both have a record limit of 29:59 because of those taxes. They don't want to make and sell different versions of the same camera. People would not buy one and buy the other off of ebay or something. Also, most of the DSLR's made by Canon and Sony can't record till 29 anyways because of the 12 minute card limit on the Canon and the overheating on the NEX. "
Someone else posted "The limit is definitely NOT in North American versions of the Panasonic GH1 or GH2. I know this because I have a GH1and it has been a well discussed issue since the GH1 was originally released"
This write postulates that this limit is due to mpeg codec licensing
http://photo.stackexchange.com/ques...-the-1080p-film-video-recording-time-duration
So many reasons.. But in terms of tax, as far as I know Asia has no such tax. Perhaps panny using avchd also bypasses the mpeg licensing, nett is that this isn't a problem for Panasonic lumix g cams. I've used G2 Gh2 Gf3 GH3 all shoot unlimited video till the card Is full.
Philip bloom a very well known videographer and filmmaker said this:
http://philipbloom.net/2009/06/03/the-lumix-30-minutes-eu-recording-issue/
I have recently learnt that the 29.59 minute max recording time on the Panasonic Lumix GH1 is not due to hardware limitations, itâs purely down to European Union tax law.
In 2007 a ruling was announced that any digital camera that records 30 minutes or more of video is classified by the EU as a camcorder and is therefore subject to 4.9% import duty (assuming the camera was made outside of the EU which they generally are!) So that is the reason why the EU version of the GH1 has the 29.59 minutes max per clip and the rest of the world doesnât get this limit.
Would you pay 4.9% (about 60 euros) more in the EU to get the max recording time and have it classified as a camcorder? I for one would.
This is not Panasonicâs fault really. They are at the mercy of the European Union and donât get me wrong, I love Europe, I am European through and through being dual nationality French and English, I just think some of their lawsâ¦well, suck! Panny need to know that the people buying the GH1 are buying it as a camcorder first and foremost and want full functionality like the rest of the world has and have no problem with it being classified as a camcorder!
Please make your thoughts known below and maybe if enough of us say what we want, something can be done. As much as I want to, I am not trying to change EU law, that wonât happen, I just want to see if there are enough people who want the full functions of this camera. 4.9% is a fair bit but still cheaper than import duties from getting one from Hong Kong (although itâs cheaper there). You then get into warranty issues thoughâ¦.I am sure Panasonic EU donât want people importing the cameras from all over the world as this WILL happen.
Film makers are a rabid bunch and will do whatever they can to get the best!
Donât think of it as 4.9% more, as all camcorders in EU have this in their prices, even the Canon HV20, 30 etcâ¦Itâs actually pretty odd that there is no duty on digital cameras when there is on everything else! Also 4.9% is only around 60 Euros! Not much when you think about the huge improvement.
We shouldnât be penalised for being European! Not when those former colonists across the pond are chuckling at us when they get to 30 minutes and their little GH1s are still going⦠Think of all those wedding videographers using this camera as a locked off wide shot at the ceremony or speeches. Or trying to do a long timelapse. The function is there, itâs just blocked!! So please vote, and if you are not European can you show your support for us?
http://philipbloom.net/2009/06/03/the-lumix-30-minutes-eu-recording-issue/
I have recently learnt that the 29.59 minute max recording time on the Panasonic Lumix GH1 is not due to hardware limitations, itâs purely down to European Union tax law.
In 2007 a ruling was announced that any digital camera that records 30 minutes or more of video is classified by the EU as a camcorder and is therefore subject to 4.9% import duty (assuming the camera was made outside of the EU which they generally are!) So that is the reason why the EU version of the GH1 has the 29.59 minutes max per clip and the rest of the world doesnât get this limit.
Would you pay 4.9% (about 60 euros) more in the EU to get the max recording time and have it classified as a camcorder? I for one would.
This is not Panasonicâs fault really. They are at the mercy of the European Union and donât get me wrong, I love Europe, I am European through and through being dual nationality French and English, I just think some of their lawsâ¦well, suck! Panny need to know that the people buying the GH1 are buying it as a camcorder first and foremost and want full functionality like the rest of the world has and have no problem with it being classified as a camcorder!
Please make your thoughts known below and maybe if enough of us say what we want, something can be done. As much as I want to, I am not trying to change EU law, that wonât happen, I just want to see if there are enough people who want the full functions of this camera. 4.9% is a fair bit but still cheaper than import duties from getting one from Hong Kong (although itâs cheaper there). You then get into warranty issues thoughâ¦.I am sure Panasonic EU donât want people importing the cameras from all over the world as this WILL happen.
Film makers are a rabid bunch and will do whatever they can to get the best!
Donât think of it as 4.9% more, as all camcorders in EU have this in their prices, even the Canon HV20, 30 etcâ¦Itâs actually pretty odd that there is no duty on digital cameras when there is on everything else! Also 4.9% is only around 60 Euros! Not much when you think about the huge improvement.
We shouldnât be penalised for being European! Not when those former colonists across the pond are chuckling at us when they get to 30 minutes and their little GH1s are still going⦠Think of all those wedding videographers using this camera as a locked off wide shot at the ceremony or speeches. Or trying to do a long timelapse. The function is there, itâs just blocked!! So please vote, and if you are not European can you show your support for us?
In this Spore Panasonice webpage:
LUMIX DMC-GH3 | Panasonic
it says that Note*3: Motion images can be recorded continuously for up to 29 min 59 sec in European PAL areas.
So, how do we avoid purchasing Europe sets ?
LUMIX DMC-GH3 | Panasonic
it says that Note*3: Motion images can be recorded continuously for up to 29 min 59 sec in European PAL areas.
So, how do we avoid purchasing Europe sets ?
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I have no idea if my GH2 from MSC can record over 30 min. in one go, never tried that the past 2 years... Why would someone want to do that?
ageha said:I have no idea if my GH2 from MSC can record over 30 min. in one go, never tried that the past 2 years... Why would someone want to do that?
different usage.. i do record events.. including concerts. most of the time i record event by event during the concert. Sometimes Im asked to record the entire event. This can be 2hrs or more...so yes. lots of usage for recording over 30min. Some wedding videographers may want to record the entire church ceremony etc.. depends
Just got my GH3. Have to say quite disappointed with the EVF. something just no quite right about it.. compare to GH2.
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