Yeah and when he says everyday, he means everyday. As in, every day. Every flipping day.
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Yeah and when he says everyday, he means everyday. As in, every day. Every flipping day.
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I think night86mare is quite acquainted with them as I am, and I am a working press photographer in the UK as well as a general photographer.
To say that "in the UK you cant simply take photos in public" is totally inaccurate. What the police do have is the right to stop you from taking photographs if they believe you are doing so as part of an act of terrorism.
The police also have the right to stop and search you in the street if they believe you are engaged in terrorist activity. Doesn't mean that "in the UK you can't simply go anywhere in public without getting searched by the police".
yes, and even then, they can't just stop you on a whim.
there have been incidences where some puffed up peacock uk policemen have stopped members of the public of doing something they were allowed to do - after that they got complaints, and reprimanded. usually these happen in cases of volunteer police officers, according to what i've read so far.
i've gotten my particulars taken down before when i was shooting the o2 dome, it was a pleasant matter, and nothing much. a lot less than what a lot of those hotshot hot-blooded "dude where's our rights" attention seekers blogging about it would have you believe. he even apologised for having to take up my time.
TS, I think you have been too sensitive on this issue. Yours is a midnight flight. Most flight attendant will get on their own business and leave you on your own unless you press the bell. Anyway, if I have been the flight attendant, I would regard this as a non issue and just get on with my job. What is there to be upset when you have been told to put away your camera.
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night on flights to take a leak. When I look towards the back of the air-craft. All I can see is 200 pair of eyes. Some opened, others closed. How would I know who is happily awake and who is sleeping with a heavy heart?
And to those who keep insisting caucasians are better treated on SIA. Let me tell you this is not unique to SIA. In fact I believe this has more to do with caucasians being more open to conversation than asians, whom are usually straight face. I have also seen drunkards hual off the flight regardless of race. Here is something interesting to do. Let's reverse the roles. Had it been a caucasian male flight attendant whom have asked you to put away your camera. Would you have been more submissive and obedient?
While most flights do announced to keep all electronics equipment off during takeoffs and landings. There are also some that advises electronics equipment to remain off during the entire flight. I guess there is no hard and fast rules on this one. If I have been seated a few seats away from you. I would have asked the attendant to ask you to keep the camera. It is also my right to do so.
Your intention is to query SIA's policies and the way you were handled by the flight attendants. You did not expect that so many do not see the situation in the same light as you do. From a customer service perspective, SIA might have to apologize to respond to your complain. In reality, many would agree that you are over-reacting on the issue. maybe it is your ego as a business class passenger to expect to be appeased when asked to do something against your wishes. First time on business class?
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Your photos are too intrusive.
A "personal project" to you is an intrusion of some other persons' space.
It's pretty obvious from how you shoot, given the focal length, that you have been standing up and more or less probably behaving in a way that is deemed to "cheekopek" for anyone's good. Besides, the pictures speak for themselves.
Like David said, if you had to show your photos, you would never have been able to justify yourself beyond voyeurism.
If you had wanted to do photojournalistic photography, there would have been better ways to do it. If you ask me, these are just shots of girls with makeup.
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On the photography skills part, you're using a 5d2 and 35/1.4. Don't give the whole boohaa about "I am still learning". It's not an excuse for anything.
There're a whole bunch of people who manual focus 35/1.4s on their SLRs and RFs.
Your photos are too intrusive.
A "personal project" to you is an intrusion of some other persons' space.
It's pretty obvious from how you shoot, given the focal length, that you have been standing up and more or less probably behaving in a way that is deemed to "cheekopek" for anyone's good. Besides, the pictures speak for themselves.
Like David said, if you had to show your photos, you would never have been able to justify yourself beyond voyeurism.
If you had wanted to do photojournalistic photography, there would have been better ways to do it. If you ask me, these are just shots of girls with makeup.
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On the photography skills part, you're using a 5d2 and 35/1.4. Don't give the whole boohaa about "I am still learning". It's not an excuse for anything.
There're a whole bunch of people who manual focus 35/1.4s on their SLRs and RFs.
I am afraid that this is pretty true....
From the stewardesses point of view, you are just someone trying to get a shot of them without permission, and they get heckled a lot so they may have asked for help from their male colleague. Otherwise they would not invoke this rule...
In fact some of them have helped me take pictures of my friends and I.
actually, I doubt there is a hard and fast rule about taking pictures in the cabin... but if we insist on pressing the matter, there might be one in the future, and we might not like it... be careful what we ask for, we might actually get it... airlines and governing authorities would probably, if they are pressed into it, go with the easy option of no more photography rather than some hard to enforce ruling of what is allowed and what is not... as it is now, without a clear ruling, we can still get by with a snipe on the sly, so why force the issue 
I decided to look back at the original post - from here, the steward "seemed" to be rude and abrasive, but after you actually revealed the kind of shots you were taking, the whole context changes.
I think some of the earlier posts, including mine were more sympathetic, since it seemed to be SIA being rude for not allowing some flexibility.
But if I were the steward and some of my female colleagues told me what you were doing, I would also storm up to you and stop you in no uncertain terms.
Kudos to the steward for standing up for his ladies and making his stand clear and even offering you his name.
Bro, take it like a man, and live with it. The majority of us have no issues with taking pictures, but we are not aiming at the girls. Or if you really NEED to shoot them, ask their permission or pay some XMM to dress up in the Kebaya...
Cheers
agreed. I would do the same in highlighting to the cabin crew if a fellow passenger is clicking away around the cabin.. who know if I fall asleep and my snoring look will appear in CS... hahaha
A very interesting 7 pages long thread. I was late for this :bsmilie:
These are what my initial thoughts, especially after seeing your photos.
Well said :thumbsup:
Could be a bit too serious, but it is possible.
Agree.
Actually, what he is worried is that you work for a competitor airline and take pictures of how the service is done and use it for training purposes. Quite crap but it is has been done before by other airline
These are what my initial thoughts, especially after seeing your photos.
Well said :thumbsup:
Could be a bit too serious, but it is possible.
Agree.
I have takens tonnes of photos on board airplanes such as Qantas, MAS, United A, Airasia, Jetstar Air NZ and all's well & good. I even carry around my DSLR walking along the asles to look for vantage points to shoot of that sunset/sunrise/land features, etc & nobody stopped me:dunno:
Guess that's why I dun fly SIA cos they are stuck-up, arrogant and rude to Singaporeans. They only sucker up/boot lick on the ang mohs so can get good review in international mag:sticktong unless of course that particular ang moh is a jackA#$ like the recent case
Guess that's why I dun fly SIA cos they are stuck-up, arrogant and rude to Singaporeans. They only sucker up/boot lick on the ang mohs so can get good review in international mag:sticktong unless of course that particular ang moh is a jackA#$ like the recent case
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No issue I guess... probably just some bruised ego
Its the first time I've come across photos taken of the inflight services though. Try taking photos of waiters/waitresses serving in a local restaurant and see what will happen
Its the first time I've come across photos taken of the inflight services though. Try taking photos of waiters/waitresses serving in a local restaurant and see what will happen
to TS: next time take Air Asia. the tvc shows the small boy taking pics of the flight crew doing their duties without any issues at all! since u r an IB, can just buy the budget ticket to practise and complete your personal project. it should be peanuts to you!
so sorry to hear that, but i am obviously singaporean and the staff on SIA have always, always been very kind to me.
I don't think there was no attenpt at "service recovery", he may be aware that you're not happy, but he have to consider the possibility that if he approch you, what if it get blown up and becomes a case of air rage? This would compromise the safety of the flight itself. Bear in mind, he have no way of telling how you would react, and since you are quitely sitting there, why take the risk?
Koudo to you for not kicking up a fuss at that point in time, but do spare a thought for others, this is not your first time you're flying SQ so maybe you should reflect on you past expericence flying with them and judge for yourself if their service is really so bad? Is there a misunderstanding? Perhaps he was a little too hursh in his actions or speech or perhaps it was due to a complain. Or maybe, without you realising it, the manner in which you took the shots warrent such reaction?
Most probably some Sgp'n are like that themselves that's why the treatment :
Newton's 3rd Law of motion - For every action there is an equal opposite reaction:bsmilie:
Anyway most is what I heard are from friends flying SQ but there is one friend who die die must fly SQ to everywhere cos very patriotic one:lovegrin:
TS is not shootin sunset/sunrise/land features. Pls take a look at the pic on page 2 before you make judgement...:think:
Yes...SQ is always kind to me too (unless the person/passenger is unreasonable...)
I've a set of triples age 10 this year and on both my filghts with SQ they have been very nice to my family, extra ice-cream for my kids, always checking if we need anything else, helping us to take family photo and posing for photos with my kids.
Yes, I've seen those photos but tell me what's the diff with these photos taken by TS and the ones I see in the SQ commercials & on Magazines? Maybe there is a diff between taking photos & copyright issues and TS thread is about 'No photography onboard SIA aircraft' as opposed to 'Cannot take photos of SG gals on SIA aircraft' so what's the point?
Well you are probably one of the 'guai guai' Sgp'n as are most majority so good on you mate:thumbsup:
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