Jose said:
First of all, ZC, you ARE an idiot, a nincompoop, and a moron. For example, if i were to visit a prostitute, and decided to spend the duration of her services having a long fulfilling discussion on victorian literature with her instead, have i been cheated??? I have merely customised the product or service which i have willingly paid for. Since you did not visit her with me, it is none of your business how i spend time with her. It is clear that you have already lost the argument and still you refuse to apologise, therefore i concur that you are either:
a: stupid
b: mentally unwell
c: obstinate
d: all of the above
Sigh, here we go again...
Thank you very much for your analogy. Very interesting indeed. Can I further use your analogy here? I am willing to take what I am about write, down if it offends anyone. Just PM me and I shall oblige. Here goes.
Let's put this whole thing as what you have analyzed. You went into a prostitute house. The OKT inside offered you this girl with a list of services. You looked at the list, liked the services listed and paid your money. In the room, the lady did what was stated in the list you saw but one of the services was halfly done. Of course, you either are willing to forego that missing service or you requested to have that service performed on you if not money back. That's the situation here.
Now, if I am the one buying the services listed by the OKT, I would expect 100% fulfillment. If one of the services is not done properly or not done at all, I would request for it to be done or I will ask for some discounts from OKT because I was not given the full services I paid for.
In your case, you are the one modifying what you are buying. The lady is willing to offer her services to you but instead you want to talk literature. That's entirely your problem, my friend, and totally cannot blame the lady or the OKT because you choose to stray away from what was agreed earlier on the list. So, putting back to photography, you paid to shoot your subjects (noticed that I never use any names?). The model is all ready for you to shoot but you choose to play cards with her. Sure it is not a problem to her because you change it and not your subject refuse to perform what she was obligated to do. What are you talking about? Coming in here just to post to join the crowd?
I merely let the new photographers know that they have all the rights to request what they pay for. I am not saying that Gravemaid cheated anybody. Poor Gravemaid may not even know that it is ethical to deliver 100% of what was stated in the post here inviting people to join the shoot. I don't blame her at all, neither nor I blame the models or the photographers. I don't understand why people like to jump into conversations like this and start throwing stones at each other? Come on, this is a public forum.
And is this nick of yours a 2nd identity? Note that I am asking a question and not assuming that Jose belongs to someone who is already a memeber here. You registered in November last year, that's 7 to 8 months ago but you only have 6 to 7 post at the point I am writing this. I'm sorry but I am suspicious. Anyway, you might be a genuine member lah. I am just guessing.
Okay, enough. Let's help the threadstarter improve and stop this nonsense.