....... And can you believe that I have seen a lot of them trying to sell their old stuff at even higher price than the new ones?? If you have not done enough research, you may be easily attracted by their so called low price. And one thing I don't understand is, seems that the culture of this forum is try to protect the seller instead of buyer, try to protect the old birds instead of newbies, and you are suggested to give them 'mian zi' not to point out that they are doing insane things! No offense.
So I learnt a lesson. Try not to buy expensive second hand stuff over here like lens if you are still newbie or at least ask someone more professional than you to accompany you.
I admit that I am not an old member of clubsnap, and I am still a newbie. Maybe that's why that I was cheated by a fellow cser. I have been very careful when i wanted to buy second hand from other cser. I believe most of the fellow csers are honest enough when they sell things in the Buy/Sell. But there still exists a lot of them who try to hide problems. Since we are newbies, we can go to those price lists to get familiar with the price of new cameras/lenses/filters/bags. but how about old ones? I dont know how you guys buy the second hand stuff.
Since I am not experienced, so I got cheated when buying a lens by a fellow cser. The guy (for his ****ing 'mian zi', not to point out his id here) rated the lens mint, and I didn' know how to check the lens condition at the time, I just shot some pics and didn't find any problem (how can u find out problem from ur camera's LCD?), so I trusted him and paid him the money. Then after I went back and gradually got time to shoot more pics I found serious problems, the lens just cannot produce sharp pics. Quality very bad that I have to use photoshop to increase contrast, saturation. Then someday when I just tried to look thru the lens I found why it gives that kind of pictures. The lens got very bad fungus and also some dust inside. To be frankly, this is the first time that i saw what the fungus is like, because i am a newbie. And this guy rated his lens as MINT! What a shame!!
And can you believe that I have seen a lot of them trying to sell their old stuff at even higher price than the new ones?? If you have not done enough research, you may be easily attracted by their so called low price. And one thing I don't understand is, seems that the culture of this forum is try to protect the seller instead of buyer, try to protect the old birds instead of newbies, and you are suggested to give them 'mian zi' not to point out that they are doing insane things! No offense.
So I learnt a lesson. Try not to buy expensive second hand stuff over here like lens if you are still newbie or at least ask someone more professional than you to accompany you.
hi sorry that I make you disappointed. Actually I like this forum very much. and I stay in the forum for very long time every day. I believe this is one of the best photography forums even in the world. I just wanted to share my buying experience with other newbie friends and this is also a good lesson for others. I didn't mean to blame the forum at all.While I empathize with you I will suggest that:
1. You read up and do your homework before buying anything not only here, but anywhere in Singapore or this world.
2. In this forum read up the guideline in buy and sell. In case you failed to read up, refer to this thread http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=8466 and especially this post http://forums.clubsnap.org/showpost.php?p=135580&postcount=2
3. because you failed to do your homework and seek assistance nor make the effort to acquire the knowledge in buying second hand items, DO NOT suggest nor accuse this forum of being bias to sellers. This type of suggestion is not only false and damaging to CS. I am certainly disappointed with such remarks.
yes i will be more careful next time. This bad experience will not keep me away from buy/sell, no mention clubsnap. Clubsnap is still my most favorite website. I have learnt a lot from this website. I as buyer is also partly responsible for what happened. I hope the website's administors dont mind that I posted the guy's nick here. all in all, my lacking of experience does not justify his cheating behavior and his dishonest.i really hope that u can be more careful next time and i know how u would be feeling now because it is quite normal to whole some anger against that guys therefore next time i recommend u to check the amount of posts of a user be4 buying and mebbie view the lens once and send it to nsc with the seller for a check be4 buying(check cost covered by u)
u should post the guy's nick here to let everyone know bout him
so others can beware
I admit that I am not an old member of clubsnap, and I am still a newbie. Maybe that's why that I was cheated by a fellow cser. I have been very careful when i wanted to buy second hand from other cser. I believe most of the fellow csers are honest enough when they sell things in the Buy/Sell. But there still exists a lot of them who try to hide problems. Since we are newbies, we can go to those price lists to get familiar with the price of new cameras/lenses/filters/bags. but how about old ones? I dont know how you guys buy the second hand stuff.
Since I am not experienced, so I got cheated when buying a lens by a fellow cser. The guy (for his ****ing 'mian zi', not to point out his id here) rated the lens mint, and I didn' know how to check the lens condition at the time, I just shot some pics and didn't find any problem (how can u find out problem from ur camera's LCD?), so I trusted him and paid him the money. Then after I went back and gradually got time to shoot more pics I found serious problems, the lens just cannot produce sharp pics. Quality very bad that I have to use photoshop to increase contrast, saturation. Then someday when I just tried to look thru the lens I found why it gives that kind of pictures. The lens got very bad fungus and also some dust inside. To be frankly, this is the first time that i saw what the fungus is like, because i am a newbie. And this guy rated his lens as MINT! What a shame!!
And can you believe that I have seen a lot of them trying to sell their old stuff at even higher price than the new ones?? If you have not done enough research, you may be easily attracted by their so called low price. And one thing I don't understand is, seems that the culture of this forum is try to protect the seller instead of buyer, try to protect the old birds instead of newbies, and you are suggested to give them 'mian zi' not to point out that they are doing insane things! No offense.
So I learnt a lesson. Try not to buy expensive second hand stuff over here like lens if you are still newbie or at least ask someone more professional than you to accompany you.