You don't need to be popular. Just need a huge backing. Even my CEO's driver speak louder than the managers in my company. 打狗要看主人。So everyone agrees with what the 弼马温 says for now. We are all waiting for the 树倒老gao散, then we can see the 齐天大圣 transform into a monkey.
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You don't need to be popular. Just need a huge backing. Even my CEO's driver speak louder than the managers in my company. 打狗要看主人。So everyone agrees with what the 弼马温 says for now. We are all waiting for the 树倒老gao散, then we can see the 齐天大圣 transform into a monkey.
it's a natural instinct, it's Darwinism, the strongest survival theory.
Usually only the strongest will WIN ALL arguments, through:
1. authority and Power - USA, North Korea, etc
2. laws and orders - Singapore (i can only think of 1 place on earth)
3. talents - top of the fields, Warren Buffett, etc
4. actions - Mother Theresa, Gandhi, Mandela, etc
5. beliefs - religions
However, it is also nature's will that no one will WIN ALL arguments forever because no can win an argument by himself, only through the acceptance of those listening to the arguments.
:thumbsup: The mod always wins. So it does not matters for everyone else.
On the other hand, 打是情，骂是爱。I have seen many love blossom from arch rivals. Somehow the emotions stirred during arguments is too hot and passionate that it develops into affection. Even competing companies merge or form joint ventures. So what divides us today might bring us together in future. Never say never. Let a quarrel takes its course. Never kill off something too early. Mitigate only when it is coming to a fight.
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i'm not accusing you of telling stories. just saying evidence is not compelling enough. have i in anyway in my short essay insulted anyone?
i'm just pointing out that the evidences you have produced, inference does not count. you are not allowed to , for example, in a court of law, infer the possible reasons if a defendant decides to not produce his own testimony, and the lack of it must not be taken into account. i hope you are clear with this point.
facts and only facts shld be presented. thats all i am saying. and so far, the only piece of solid evidence was teh statistics, hope you understand what i'm getting at. opinions and stands change with evidence produced.if you provide more compellign evidence, i will be swayed to your side of the argument. take a step back, look if you have made any clear bias and then change your pov. most of us are stubborn, and this is one good time to review if we had been stubborn in our stand.
and as for the noise part, my oversight. i probably crossed over with another person's comments by accident or something. for that i apologize
hope this clarifies.
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No no no... Not referring to you. The last one is just comments.. Sorry if it cause concerns or misunderstanding.
Also, I'm just clarifying wrt your comment.. not arguing with you or anything to that effect......
For your own health we like to see you not only moving away from that, but moving totally out of that. :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
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just give up....it's impossible to win arguments in an online forum. both sides are simply too proud to accept defeat! and there is no judge to say who has won the argument.
the only arguments than can be "won" are in a courtroom.
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the only arguments than can be "won" are in a courtroom.
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in clubsnap, there are no winners if the arguments continue.
what will happen is that the mods will just whack both, then all die. :bsmilie:
i don't really want to reach that stage, so i move away from that, but people keep knocking on my door. how? :bsmilie:
haha...do I need to tell my story. I thot I am already infamous by picking to argue with the mod. No love gained though.
I don't gain anything. But I am not one that will keep quiet. Even if die also must voice my opinion. Else I will turn and toss, and might even rise from my grave to make my point.
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QFT. Posting. This thread.
"puff hot air, sprouting rubbish.."
well.. fine.. Quoted for reference.
The last statement in the 2nd comment is interesting........ wonder whose post appear first..
"puff hot air, sprouting rubbish.."
well.. fine.. Quoted for reference.
The last statement in the 2nd comment is interesting........ wonder whose post appear first..
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