Do you really want to learn?
You can learn more from a $100 manual film SLR and a $100 50/1.4 manual lens than you can learn from a $8000 Canon 1DS Mark III...
Or are you just envying those with bigger cameras?
Is photography for the rich and the old?
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Do you really want to learn?
You can learn more from a $100 manual film SLR and a $100 50/1.4 manual lens than you can learn from a $8000 Canon 1DS Mark III...
Or are you just envying those with bigger cameras?
Hell that's crap!
Anyone in the know knows that a 1 D ser bod would not cut it.
Just get a big big long long white barrel and most guys would envy you, and most girls will get attracted - even if it's attached to a D30 cam worth a grand total of about less than $100 nowadays.
As for 'solid' bods, nothing holds the same amount of mystery and charm as a waist-level medium format camera. Hint: You can get a complete basic Blad set-up in v good cond for less than a 1.3K now.
I couldn't agree more. We live in a 'want' society, everybody covets the latest and greatest. Be happy with what you have, make the best of what you have got and be true to yourself. I can lend you a film SLR if you really want to get started.
1) Photography is not for pple who are rich and old.
2) I agreed the DSLR might be too ex for young folks (how old are you?).
Try saving up if you think this is worth it.
Alternatively, get a PnS with manual setting.
BTW, i started photography with a Oly MjuII...just point and shoot
It depends... if your definition of photography is to have the latest camera and the fastest lens, I have to be agree that it is for the rich only... If you can understand and make use a PnS, you don't have to be rich...
Starters can always start with a second-hand low-end DSLR...
does a gold plated with croc leather for hand grip camera gives better photos than a normal camera of the same brand and model? who knows, maybe it can since it makes the user happy, so good mood, so takes better photos.
i am for the "its the user, not the eqpt" camp. but after reading after so many thread on this issue, i come to agree that whats wrong with buying the most expensive eqpt if user can afford? people here buy super cars but exploit its full capabilities due to the obvious. but whats wrong with that? people buy 4-5 figures watches, while a 2 figures watch will do the same for telling you time and date of the day, stop watch 1/100sec, count down, alarm.
for me, i can take photo using a $150 canonet QLGIII, isnt that call photography too.
so, at the end of the day, photography is what you make of it, as long as it brings you joy. if you feel its for the rich and old, than why not wait till you are there, if you are sure you cant be rich when old, maybe change to another hobby that requires less and go enjoy it.
i am for the "its the user, not the eqpt" camp. but after reading after so many thread on this issue, i come to agree that whats wrong with buying the most expensive eqpt if user can afford? people here buy super cars but exploit its full capabilities due to the obvious. but whats wrong with that? people buy 4-5 figures watches, while a 2 figures watch will do the same for telling you time and date of the day, stop watch 1/100sec, count down, alarm.
for me, i can take photo using a $150 canonet QLGIII, isnt that call photography too.
so, at the end of the day, photography is what you make of it, as long as it brings you joy. if you feel its for the rich and old, than why not wait till you are there, if you are sure you cant be rich when old, maybe change to another hobby that requires less and go enjoy it.
People won't think twice about buying expensive mobile phones the price of a D40 kit but when it comes to photography, they will think that a $500 PnS is expensive..
i would say serious photography used to be for the rich and older crowd. not so now. i see so many kids half my age toting gear that makes me wanna run and hide my face.
when i was their age, i could only dream of owning a slr. so does that make the young people nowadays more fortunate?
when i was their age, i could only dream of owning a slr. so does that make the young people nowadays more fortunate?
i would say serious photography used to be for the rich and older crowd. not so now. i see so many kids half my age toting gear that makes me wanna run and hide my face.
when i was their age, i could only dream of owning a slr. so does that make the young people nowadays more fortunate?
last time police wear shorts, then they envy police that wear long pants now?
time change, things are mass produced, hence cheaper, last time can only dream of taking aeroplane, now some take it daily...
fortunate or not, its their life... as long as we ourselves feel fortunate is all that matters.
i'm sure they dun envy policemen that wear long pants lor. last time wear shorts got more spare change in the pockets and other unofficial benefits. :bsmilie:
i'm just more happy that i have the capability and ability to fulfill my wants and needs.
So, is photography for the rich and old ..... ?
Well I fit into one part of the question .... I would like to be as rich as I am old :bsmilie:
Photography .... for a person that is interested in it and not looking at it as bread and butter,
Does Not Need To Be Rich.
It can a hobby, just like model aeorplanes can be.
To fly a model aeroplane takes a developed skill .... to take a good photo takes a developed skill also.
Buy one you can afford and learn with it.
Much fun and enjoyment can be had from learning with the simplest camera.
If it is a digital one, the learning curve is less mind wrenching than learning to fly a model plane :bsmilie:
> 30yrs = old
Rich = can buy D3, 1d mkiii without the need for thinking.
More rich = buy 500mm f4, 600mm f4 without the need for thinking, just whack and go.
in this forum, i know one gal who belongs to the rich category and there are a couple of guys in the more rich category ;p
And so?
Does it means that with a D3/1DS,you learn faster?
The learning curves ultimately depends on your hardwork.
For those who parade around with equiment,showing off,they're simply known as Gadgets lovers or IT geeks.
No need to lump people like this with the ones real photographer.
like my previous post, anything wrong for those who dont know much about photography but buy the best eqpt since they can well afford to?
why ladies buy diamonds, man and ladies buy 4-5 figures watches, why people buy exotic cars, why people buy big houses, why people buy high end computer, etc when they hardly use the full capabilities of those stuff?
some ladies only wears their diamonds on few occasions in a year,
rolax can go deep dive 200m, but do their owners do it?
exotic cars goes from 0-100km/hr in sub 5sec and top speed of beyond 250km/hr, but do their drive that fast?
how many hour does a person stay in the house per day? 8+hrs at work, 1+hr on travel, 3-4hr enjoy entertaining customers?
using high end computer to surf net, use ms words / excel, play games, but a good old p3 / p4 can also do that, give and take 1-2sec slower when running afew softwares all at the same time.
to TS, my friend, what ever makes you happy.
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