Odex Directors wanna sue anime downloaders in Singapore.
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Well. they still haven't provide any proof that people are actually downloading. And honestly, by intuition, that is a bit hard to believe considering the amount of download websites in one of Japan's neighbour.
If you read the link on the first page: http://digital.asiaone.com/Digital/News/Story/A1Story20070814-21941.html
Starhub was "ordered to reveal about 1,000 of its subscribers accused of downloading anime illegally." I'm guessing the ISP might have a log (MEGA MEGA LOG) of the things. Or at least the ODEX people saw things being downloaded using starhub accounts. It's possible to trace to the accounts isn't it?
I was referring to the reports about reliability of BayTSP's method in tracing these accounts. Yes, they can trace the users to the respective ISP, but if they can't show that the users have actually engaged in downloading/uploading and not just being connected to torrent trackers, there isn't a lot of justification to ask the ISPs for their logs. The ISPs may have a log of what IPs users are assigned to, how much data they have transferred etc etc. But first you have to show that these data transfer are illegal then ask for their identity, and not ask for their identity first then see if their data transfers are illegal.
If you have been following the case, you can see that even the judge that denied them their case against Pacific Internet is not convinced that they have show sufficient proof of their ability to track down the downloaders.
If I remember correctly, with some ISP, you can login and check your access log. It will include the date / time, IP address, telephone number and number of MBytes downloaded / uploaded. But not the details of the data downloaded or uploaded.
So by mapping the IP address and date/time, they should be able to know which user is assigned with the IP address at a given date or time.
It is apparent that one of the Japanese companies bought in is TV Tokyo Corporation which is a major distributor in anime in Japan but is not a content maker or anime studio. I wonder will they pull any weight to xedox?? TV Tokyo Corpration has issued an authorised letter to xedox for pursuing the illegal downloader but can a distributor authorise another sub-distributor to sue??
According to the New Paper, "Media INternational Corporation, Toei Animation Enterprises Ltd, and TV Tokyo Medianet Co Ltd gave Odex letters of authorisation, granting it permission to act on their behalf against illegal downloaders."
they should have given Odex those letters of authorisation before going aft illegal downlosaders, not when an outcry is raised. cover backside liddat v amateur loh. like nv do homework, now do correction. :sweat:
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I think the answer is no.
There was a local case which decided that even an sub-exclusive licensee who got its license from another exclusive licensee has no locus standi to sue.
Hence, the only people entitled is the owner, and his DIRECT exclusive licensee.
There was a local case which decided that even an sub-exclusive licensee who got its license from another exclusive licensee has no locus standi to sue.
Hence, the only people entitled is the owner, and his DIRECT exclusive licensee.
makes me wonder if they're going to stick around for the court case or not...:dunno:
actually...this point of time i still thinking what else they can reason on to charge the downloaders...
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I think whether they stick around or not may not make much of a difference. Odex may need to join the actual owners into the suit. I'm not sure if "authorisation to act on behalf of" alone is sufficient.
In any case, they need ALL of the owners to come down, not just 4.
In any case, they need ALL of the owners to come down, not just 4.
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