SBS Transit: She claws driver till he BLEEDS .

[tan131]

i think there shld be a new law similar to air rage and shld be threated as a serious criminal offence for her part on assulting the bus driver when he was driving. It could have lead to a serious accident.

 

[jmmtn4aj]

http://www.ezlink.com.sg/termsOfUse.htm

I don't see anything about expired concession cards.

Appears to support what the SBS says all the time.

It does?

he explained that he had to follow company procedure to retain expired concession cards.

 

[littlejt]

she was prolly mis using the concession rights of the card she was using...

and who cares about it.. what a ridiculous thing to do.. clawing the bus driver who is driving a bus packed with people. its so freaking dangerous. and her male companion, what a disgrace to society too.. she behavior is obviously horrendous. if i were to be her boyfriend, i would break up with her on the spot and leave the bus.

these kind of people arh.. seriously.. nothing to say. even her bro in law apologized profusely, and she wouldnt even want to budge giving a simple apology... what an arrogant bitch.

 

[zaren]

Once again, I state the legal position (as confirmed by SBS themselves - albeit in a very roundabout and non-commital way), that if a customer refuses to hand over their card, there is NOTHING that the bus captain can do. If SBS wishes to, they can institute expensive legal proceedings to enforce their CIVIL rights.

In fact, it is even possible that the bus captain, if retaining the card even with the express refusal of the customer, can be liable for theft/robbery.

SBS only has a civil and contractual right, not an absolute legal right.

An example : if A buys goods from B, A is contractually liable to B to pay for the goods. However, B has no right to confiscate A's wallet just to satisfy his debt.

the card belongs to EZL, not the customer. the customer paid for use of the ez link card, not ownership of the card. there is no theft or robbery involved when the bus captain, an employee of EZL, retains the card with good reason, as stated in the terms and conditions of the ezlink card when it is issued to the customer.

 

[satay16]

she was prolly mis using the concession rights of the card she was using...

actually, the concession thing doesn't work anymore after it expires. then after it expires, the card basically acts like a normal adult card. after a certain timeframe, the card then really expires, or rendered unusable. at least it works like that on the students' card. i could still use it like a normal adult card(the concession cancelled itself after 1 jan 2007). during june, it then became totally unusable(emits the 5 beeps sound).

 

[littlejt]

but seriously that doesnt justify her outragous behavoir. i mean look, i'm just a bus driver, doing my job, enforcing regulations which my boss told me to do. happily doing what i'm doing, ferrying people to their destinations. and here comes these 2 comuters. i do what i'm suppose to do. be patient with them. explain over and over again. and what! you try to snatch the thing away from me. scratch me till i bleed, rip my pocket off. like wtf...
i salute the bus driver for his patience man. if i were to be in his shoes, i would have sent the 2 idiots flying out from my bus.

is this how some of us singaporeans are? arrogant self righteous *******s/bitches. seriously..

 

[Ah_K]

the card belongs to EZL, not the customer. the customer paid for use of the ez link card, not ownership of the card. there is no theft or robbery involved when the bus captain, an employee of EZL, retains the card with good reason, as stated in the terms and conditions of the ezlink card when it is issued to the customer.

You are spot on about the ownership of cards here. None of us owns our EZ Link card actually. If only all users read the terms and conditions properly

actually, the concession thing doesn't work anymore after it expires. then after it expires, the card basically acts like a normal adult card. after a certain timeframe, the card then really expires, or rendered unusable. at least it works like that on the students' card. i could still use it like a normal adult card(the concession cancelled itself after 1 jan 2007). during june, it then became totally unusable(emits the 5 beeps sound).

the lady could have paid concession fare in cash and showed her pass to pass off as a student(which was actually expired). This constitutes as a misuse too.

 

[lovells19]

Very soon we will have bus drivers housed in bullet proofed glass to protect them, All Bus drivers will be issued with bullet proof vest and safety helmet

Outragous, while singapore is striving for a CIVILIZED society, we have these lovely people who thinks they are above all.

 

[Ola]

Maybe SBS need to hire bus marshal .... :sweat:

 

[Godzilla Invades]

Retaining expired concession cards maybe one thing but getting violent is another.

The captain may not have the CIVIL rights to confiscate the cards but you don't have to be that violent to anyone (be it a bus captain or not) to get your card back.

It was very good of the bus captain remain absolutely cool about it. It shows how he was careful enough not to endanger the remaining passengers on the bus to get hurt or any vehicle on the road.

Whatever it is, the woman has no right to attack the bus captain even he has no absolute right to confiscate. I mean it's just an expired concession card he retained. She does not need to get super violent to scratch the bus driver. Wah lau.......i better don't meet this lady. Take anything from her and you will get it from her.

Young people nowadays get so work up so easily.

 

[afbug]

I think she is THE Wolverine or a chao ah lian. :devil:

 

[Godzilla Invades]

but seriously that doesnt justify her outragous behavoir. i mean look, i'm just a bus driver, doing my job, enforcing regulations which my boss told me to do. happily doing what i'm doing, ferrying people to their destinations. and here comes these 2 comuters. i do what i'm suppose to do. be patient with them. explain over and over again. and what! you try to snatch the thing away from me. scratch me till i bleed, rip my pocket off. like wtf...
i salute the bus driver for his patience man. if i were to be in his shoes, i would have sent the 2 idiots flying out from my bus.

is this how some of us singaporeans are? arrogant self righteous *******s/bitches. seriously..

Agree with you totally man. I mean if I am the bus driver and my boss said this is the rules, so follow it. I will confiscate the expired concession cards as I am working with SBS.

I don't really care the WTF legal rights......as my company, SBS officers will deal with it.

 

[richardg]

Once again, I state the legal position (as confirmed by SBS themselves - albeit in a very roundabout and non-commital way), that if a customer refuses to hand over their card, there is NOTHING that the bus captain can do. If SBS wishes to, they can institute expensive legal proceedings to enforce their CIVIL rights.

are you saying that notwithstanding that even if the terms of the issuance of the card clearly states that the card remains the property of SBS at all times and that SBS has the right to retain it,
these are civil rights which sbs must go thru court action to enforce?

do u hv any interest in this case?

 

[satay16]

dunno leh, i dun think it is worth it. if the suitation was already to the extent where the driver must ask someone to witness the event, i rather just give the card back to her. one card not worth the injuries.


driver : "i have to confiscate your card. it is expired."
girl : "no! i want my card back!"
driver : "guy, see huh, i nv violent huh."
guy : "orh"
girl : "i want my card back!"
driver : "see huh? i ony take her card, i never touch her."
guy : "yeah."
girl : "give me back my card!" *pull driver's hand*
driver : "see huh? she violent, but i still stay calm. remember orh."
guy : "yeah, can see it."
girl : "arghhhh!!!!!!" *scratches driver*
driver : "woah. you see? she so violent. but i still do nothing hor. you can see right?"
guy : "yeah."
girl : "give me back my card!!" *rips of the sleeve of the driver*
driver : "see huh. now she tore my shirt. but i still do nothing. i still calm."
guy : "yeah. you good. very calm."

 

[+evenstar]

the lady should be glad that the driver didn't retaliate when she attacked him

 

[reachme2003]

vince, you have not answer my question.

 

[satay16]

the lady should be glad that the driver didn't retaliate when she attacked him

well, then the whole blame would be on the lady. if the driver attacked her, we would be having statments like

"yeah, the girl was at fault, but the driver shouldn't have beaten her."

"fire the driver!!!"

"it is ungentlemanly to hit a girl!"


then...........the girl becomes innocent. haha.

 

[reachme2003]

property of ezlink, not sbs.

are you saying that notwithstanding that even if the terms of the issuance of the card clearly states that the card remains the property of SBS at all times and that SBS has the right to retain it,
these are civil rights which sbs must go thru court action to enforce?

do u hv any interest in this case?

 

[denniskee]

she deserve heavy punishment for causing danger to all the people on the bus as well as other road user. than again, what if she claim she is suffering depression?? is it a legally valid reason as like it is mental illness right??

talk talk talk, educate educate educate, after all that, this happen. time to take serious tough action against all these bullies.

 

[AReality]

What SBS has done in many of its public letters, is to give the imperssion that it has an absolute right to retain the cards, when it is in fact, just a civil right. I'll post a chain of letters published in the Today newspaper later this Monday if anyone is interested - it is all in the office.

Ehhh...
So in this girl's case,
am I right to say that if she don't hand over the card, she can get off the bus immediately, and the bus driver do not have the right to prevent her from leaving the bus. If he prevents her from leaving, the bus driver may have committed a criminal offence almost the same as "kidnapping" ?

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