Windows Vista

Will you use Windows Vista?


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It's the same for any other os. The more cluttered the HDD the slower it is. Try defragging.

I have few programs installed in WinXP.

I tried defragged. boot up still slow.

my hdd is very empty one. only few programs.

i only have symantec anti virus and zonealarm as background program.
 

I have few programs installed in WinXP.

I tried defragged. boot up still slow.

my hdd is very empty one. only few programs.

i only have symantec anti virus and zonealarm as background program.

there you go, your answer is Symantec antivirus.
Remove it. it's crap, lol
 

Norton antivirus and zone alarm took up quite many resources.
 

will consider switching if it supports all my current hardware and applications. i've got the RC version. tried it and the support is quite crappy.
 

Too many annoying security prompts. I hate the way the explorer displays paths, copy as text? (wtf). The only thing good about vista is the installation.
 

i am still waiting for apples to fall from the trees. :D
 

But it's not something to be taken for granted right? I'm quite an idiot at IT, but as an end user, I expect the software installed to be only taking up my system's resources when I use it, and not everytime I switch on my comp.
software install take up space in HDD even thought it is not being run.
 

For certain reason, I will not use Vista till it is stable. Best is to see and monitor. haha
 

I have few programs installed in WinXP.

I tried defragged. boot up still slow.

my hdd is very empty one. only few programs.

i only have symantec anti virus and zonealarm as background program.

Urgh! Symantic.... the resource hog...
Try AVG anti virus its quite good... and free.

Also try http://www.ccleaner.com to clean up your registry, unwanted files in your temp folders, orphaned files from the crap you had installed, etc. Incidently, CCleaner really means Crap Cleaner... This would recover quite a bit of space and also speed up your machine.
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software install take up space in HDD even thought it is not being run.

I don't mean hard disk space when I mean systems resource. I mean CPU and memory usage, 2 very precious resource for people like myself. If you've used Windows long enough, you'll probably notice that with each generation of Windows update, there are more and more processes running in the background. They may be explicit and shown in your taskbar like the typical virus scanner or firewall of today, but they can also be hidden somewhere. Another common experience will be the more programs you install, the greater likelihood of crashes, computer freezing, software taking longer to load, files taking longer to save, software conflict, etc etc.

I'm no techie at all, but I'm a heavy user since the ancient days. I'm talking about the ancient days of DOS. You can install whatever you want, and won't experience similar performance deterioriation. I'm sure the much more educated users of Windows know how to troubleshoot and disable the processes that're responsible for the deterioriation. But I wish the end-user wouldn't need to know the inner functions of the OS just so as to maintain the expected level of performance.

Worse thing is, with each generation upgrade from Windows 95-98-XP, as an end user, I don't see any meaningful improvement at all. Although each update significantly demands more system resources.
 

Actually the only thing that appealed to me was the cool GUIs. But i cannot imagine how freaking slow my com will be running with all the bells and whistles turned on.

In the end, a classic GUI would seem much better than a lagging animated one.
 

For certain reason, I will not use Vista till it is stable. Best is to see and monitor. haha


Yep i agreed.

Being a window user for the past 18years, i feel very disappointed with their products.
Win3.1
Win95,
Win98,
WinME (worst lot)
Win2000 (the better one)
WinXP.

The microsoft had been shelving this WinVista for so long..and i wonder have they managed to come up a stable and easy to use OS?

Ever since i switch to Mac OS......I simply throw my XP box out of the Windows.


Mac Leopard!

:) ;) :)
 

i have no problems with windows XP SP2, so i see no need for vista or mac
 

You guys might like to read about vista and it's associated future costs

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt

Some of the tactics such as bus encryption are already present in the xboxes.

I hope it's not authentic. Elimination of Open-source Hardware Support? Insecurity complex? Denial-of-Service via Driver Revocation? Sounds like many jobs to be created in the sys admin industry. That would really push me to Mac.
 

I don't think the question is "If" you will use Vista but rather "When" will you migrate to Vista. If you wanna stick with Windows, you can't run away from the upgrade treadmill. Me, not until SP1 is out and even then, got to make sure my custom apps all work properly first. I'm happy with XP Pro for now.
Hope you realize that you do have a choice. If you feel that Vista has got nothing "new" to offer to you, why switch?

Sometimes, I see that peeps switch over just because it's the "In" thing to do. I feel that this is terribly wrong. While it is good to keep up with technology somehow, one doesn't have to compromise things (i.e. stable setup, $$$, time) just because you have the itch.

I've used Vista (pre-RTM) on my spare rig and I didn't quite like the experience (it performed quite badly on my spare rig's config). Not saying that I'm not gonna move on at some point -- I'm a software developer by profession in the first place -- just that if things keep going on at this pace, it might be worth sticking with XP and wait for the next Windows release.

My 0.02 cents worth.

:Later,
 

I'm talking about the ancient days of DOS. You can install whatever you want, and won't experience similar performance deterioriation.
Disagree. Do you remember how the boot up time was like when you've got SideKick or other TSRs (Terminate-and-Stay-Resident) softwares like F-Prot, or Stacker or loaded?

Do you remember those days when accessing floppy drives causes your system to pause for a short while due to the anti-virus software scanning the files and directories? (We're talking about 1.44MB or 2.88MB floppies in here)

Do you remember those days when we had to tweak config.sys to squeeze as much RAM out of it?

It's almost the same as today. Just that today's softwares are much more humongous and yes, complicated.

:Later,
 

I hope it's not authentic. Elimination of Open-source Hardware Support? Insecurity complex? Denial-of-Service via Driver Revocation? Sounds like many jobs to be created in the sys admin industry. That would really push me to Mac.

It's authentic. It's all about trusted computing. Part of the problem is the push by media companies to have secure methods of retaining their rights, which is a problem to them because of the HD content that will be coming out.
 

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