riva said:I have joined such photo shots before (not with this group) and I've been a model myself when there was a lack.
You don't have to be staring to be considered as oogling. What I mean is most of the guys on such shoots oogle through their lens. Capturing only pretty smiles but not much in way of substance.
I won't mind coming along on a shoot someday if the model is worth my time and money.
Hey riva, I join shots before too, but was never a model ..... too ugly to be one. I do not only take models, but also street, landscapes, kids ..... etc etc ..... am I the oogling kind too?
Personal view, pretty smiles does not mean good picture, when I take a picture, I make sure I take the inner soul.
In what way a model is classified as worth your time and money .... for me every model is worth time and money, may it be a man, a woman, a kid, a dog, an animal, a still life, as long as I can get a subject, it is up to me to make it worth my time and money. The end result of whether I capture the beauty within is more important.
I had been taking pictures for 15 years, but my collection of my own photograph is less then 100, reasons? 99.xxx% of what I took, I threw it away as I felt the essence is not there.