Where to dispose of army barang after ROD
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vince123123 said:Is there anything wrong with burning army stuff per se? (ie specific to army, not general burning issues like causing air pollution etc)? Should ask these police wannabes where they get their source of authority from
Maybe should list them out or point us to that other thread.
I do know that the combat helmet is not to be sold publicly in Singapore because it is listed as a defense related materiel, due to the Kevlar construction.
1. What is meant by no longer liable for National Service?
Under the Enlistment Act, Chapter 93, NSmen will not be liable for NS call-ups when they reach the statutory age limit of 40 for Warrant Officers, Specialists and Enlistees ( WOSEs) and 50 for Officers. In other words, personnel reaching the stated statutory age limit will no longer be liable to be called up for any NS activities such as ICT, IPPT, mobilisation etc.
2. What should I do to my SAF personal equipment now that I have completed my NS liability?
You may dispose the items in the normal ways as long as the items do not end up in an unauthorised usage. Alternatively, you may return the items to:
GEMC – Army Logistics Base
601 Old Choa Chu Kang Road
Singapore 699817
Contact:
Tel: 6389-6381/ 6389-6382
b. Address:
National Servicemen Services Centre (NSSC)
1 Depot Road, CMPB
Singapore 109681
Contact:
Tel: 6373-1672/ 6373-1675/ 6373-1677
Under the Enlistment Act, Chapter 93, NSmen will not be liable for NS call-ups when they reach the statutory age limit of 40 for Warrant Officers, Specialists and Enlistees ( WOSEs) and 50 for Officers. In other words, personnel reaching the stated statutory age limit will no longer be liable to be called up for any NS activities such as ICT, IPPT, mobilisation etc.
2. What should I do to my SAF personal equipment now that I have completed my NS liability?
You may dispose the items in the normal ways as long as the items do not end up in an unauthorised usage. Alternatively, you may return the items to:
a. Address: GEMC – Army Logistics Base
601 Old Choa Chu Kang Road
Singapore 699817
Contact:
Tel: 6389-6381/ 6389-6382
b. Address:
National Servicemen Services Centre (NSSC)
1 Depot Road, CMPB
Singapore 109681
Contact:
Tel: 6373-1672/ 6373-1675/ 6373-1677
vince123123 said:Is there anything wrong with burning army stuff per se? (ie specific to army, not general burning issues like causing air pollution etc)? Should ask these police wannabes where they get their source of authority from
Maybe should list them out or point us to that other thread
except that all items issued by the SAF is not your property per se. by burning those items, you are technically breaking the law by unlawfully destructing the property of the SAF.
if you doubt that, go have a good look at your equipment. every issue has a label stating 3 capital letters - S.A.F.
Reference: SAF Act Chapter 295, Section 42:
Damage to, and loss of, Singapore Armed Forces property, etc.
42. (1) Every person subject to military law who
(a) wilfully damages or destroys or causes the loss of, or is concerned in the wilful damage, destruction or loss of, any Singapore Armed Forces property, or any property belonging to a person subject to military law; or
(b) by wilful neglect causes or allows damage to, or the loss of, any Singapore Armed Forces property or property so belonging,
shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction by a subordinate military court to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years or any less punishment authorised by this Act.
(2) Every person subject to military law who
(a) by any negligent act or omission causes or allows damage to, or the loss of, any Singapore Armed Forces property; or
(b) is guilty of any wilful or negligent act or omission which is likely to cause damage to, or the loss of, any such property,
shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction by a subordinate military court to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or any less punishment authorised by this Act.
(3) Where such property consists of arms, or is an aircraft, a vessel or a vehicle, such person shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction by a subordinate military court to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years or any less punishment authorised by this Act.
No 4 is good for birding or jungle shoot. Wish I had one but I dont go for NS (1st gen PR).
However I was told that we cannot use uniform issued by SAF for other uses. Is that true?
However I was told that we cannot use uniform issued by SAF for other uses. Is that true?
can someone confirm?DeSwitch said:
i currently use the SAF goretex jacket as my raincoat..:bsmilie:
Parchiao said:
Are you in MR or ROD. Now ROD only when you are 40. If in case of war and they neeed reserve forces, guess who they call
After 40 they dun want you. Once the units in MR there not IPPT, ICT or MOBmay i draw attention to "every person subject to military law". does a person who has reached the ns non-liability age still deemed subject to military law? i think not.
mervlam said:
reachme2003 said:
then go ahead, but dont get caught red-handed lor.
vince just asked if there are any laws pertaining to "burning of army stuff" with regards to SAF Act Chp. 295 or the GOA. i'm just doing my part to answering the question.
+evenstar said:
Use of SAF Equipment & Uniforms
The equipment and uniforms issued to NSmen after ORD can only be used when carrying out military duties. Likewise, SAF decorations, medals and emblems can only be used for purposes authorised by the SAF
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/nsmen/1_discipline.asp
just dont wear full number 4 + sbo + helmet in public view to do funny things. otherwise, the ruling is quite lax. In my opinion, can wear jungle hat, gortex boots, gortex raincoat, but number 4 shirt + trousers is a no no.
PS: I'm not a "police wannabe". I'm just a loggie well-versed in these kind of stuff.
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Thanks mervlam - will review the sections you have cited
Do youthink that the laws you have cited apply to army equpment that we buy from Beah Road? It's doubtful if those fall under Government issued property - hence can I walk around with my No.4 bought from beach road?
Do youthink that the laws you have cited apply to army equpment that we buy from Beah Road? It's doubtful if those fall under Government issued property - hence can I walk around with my No.4 bought from beach road?
mervlam said:
k3nn3th03 said:
:bsmilie: Got discount la I heard from many people but you have to complete at lest seven high key. My friend MR with his unit at 29 he only did seven high key then no liao. So good luck to you.
vince123123 said:Thanks mervlam - will review the sections you have cited
Do youthink that the laws you have cited apply to army equpment that we buy from Beah Road? It's doubtful if those fall under Government issued property - hence can I walk around with my No.4 bought from beach road?
btw, since you mentioned Beach Road, I do know that some shops are illegally selling authentic, real SAF equipment like PT kits and uniforms. buying from such shops is discouraged. that's why SAF set up eMart to save you from a troublesome trip to your unit RQMS.
btw, are you saying that you want to walk around town in full no.4 impersonating as a member of the SAF? why would you want to do that? you should only wear your full uniform when on duty
we had digressed too much. we are talking about how to properly dispose off used SAF equipment/uniform.
i think he wants to know if he wan wear his no.4 to do nature shooting, or similar stuff?mervlam said:
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