studiolabmaster said:my point is simple ,photo rep is not a must but a good start.If u think u r capable to get so many dealS and do all kind of photography by yourself,great.
But for me i believe in -no one is a master of all,
a good photographer specialised in certain kind of photograpsH,not all.
tO PROTECT yourself,i am open to all ideas but DO NOT CRASH MY THREAD!;(
Also for every portfolio given,u are to indicate your own potrait photo of yourself and also each pc of photo u give in 8r must be accompanied with your name at a corner.
For me,i could only say.trust and believe is the only thing to works things out.If u are scared ,than forget it.anyway u or me got nothing to loss.
I do mainly human shots..........i am not a master of all
If i was to get 5 jobs a day,do u think i am that capable to do them all in the same time.
If each job cost $300 total will be $1500.my commission will be S$450 if all are sub-out.
I already had a small pool of freelance photographers,but the idea was to bring more out of each one and my sales marketer will not have a chance to slack,cos if we are joined togeteher,we basically covered the photography industry and to me,its just like a singapore photographer liberary.
Conflict,yes,maybe.only if one is charging $300 and the other one is $1000 which the $300 produce the same or better results.....:bsmilie:
Hopethis tells u what i am trying to do.............:think:
Firstly, do not be sensitive.. Nobody's crashing your thread, at least not me... I'm merely pointing out most agendas to be transparent... Trust and believing in others other than yourself is also a certain way to be taken advantage of... And trust me, and really do, I know exactly what you're trying to do for these people... I've certainly got nothing to lose in this thread, but I really see the long & winding path of the hopefuls trying to cut a path. The reason why I clarify the certain issues of associate photographers, who pays what and stuffs, is so that everyone just gets a better picture of what's exactly happening... There's just a couple of issues I disagree, and thought of putting them into perspective, because those hopefuls who have started, they ain't streetwise as yet... So just putting in my part as a working full-timer....
Photo-Rep is not even supposed to be a starting point for photographers. It's really for those who has made it and good enough to be represented... Which established Photo-Rep would screw his/ her reputation by representing a mediocre? A photo-rep is a branded name by him/ herself already and doesn't need to rely on the luck of the photographers really... perhaps there would be a mediocre photo-rep who tries peddling photographers with work less than make the cut... This becomes worse... The rep not only lost a reputation by because of this, he screws up the photographer to be cursed at, and from then on, or at least for a while, people remembers him/ her for having represented lousy work... You have a team of freelance you were trying to put together, ultimately, the seriously good ones would have been dragged into the mudpool too....
Singapore maybe small, but may I just say it's wishing thinking to cover Singapore's scene of photographers... Remember First Photo, it's gone.... Most Photographers, if given a chance would like to be in the limelight by him/ herself... most active(passionate photographers) would be out impressing their clients, just like you do.. All you would get is freelances(no offences to those holding onto full time jobs), but people who shoot so very seldom.. These are the people you push to do a commercial event/ job?? I really don't think money making(commission making) in this way seems to be the route to nirvana. In my upbringing in my career, I was taught, trained through pretty guerilla way, to be good and delivering even before my ex. boss hands me my first assignment...
If you would, do train up those who you think is, potentially good, bring em up in your shoes... Then only, started marketing them out... These hopefuls will then really know what your efforts were about...