Nikon 80-200 f2.8 or Nikon 70-200 f2.8

[donchua]

If want fast AF & save money, get the AFS 80-200 if you can find a used set.
Price <$2K.
I just gotten 1 and Love It..:sweatsm:

 

[reflecx]

Serious, mpenza, you should really hold the 1-touch and use it. :sweat: It's very much heavier than the newer two touches. :sweat:

No lah, the 1-touch is the same weight as the 2-touch, 1300g. The 80-200 AFS lens is heavier at 1550g, the VR is 1430g.

 

[Astin]

No lah, the 1-touch is the same weight as the 2-touch, 1300g. The 80-200 AFS lens is heavier at 1550g, the VR is 1430g.

The 250g weight difference is the main reason I choose the AFD80-200...

 

[hackie]

80-200 has 16 elements in 11 groups, and the 70-200VR 21 elements in 15 groups.

80-200 is a AF, while 70-200VR is a AF-S.

80-200 is a D type glass, while 70-200VR is a G type glass.

there's an AFS 80-200, ya?

what do u mean by D n G type glass??
never heard of these b4.. :think:
onli heard of ED glass. :sweatsm:
i onli noe 70-200 is a G type cos no aperture ring..
D as in Distance Info? then both lenses have this technology

 

[espn]

No lah, the 1-touch is the same weight as the 2-touch, 1300g. The 80-200 AFS lens is heavier at 1550g, the VR is 1430g.

I know, but the push/pull design & build makes it feel very heavy over the other two AFD/AFS glasses.

I also surprised to see the weight listed as lighter, but the design made it feel very heavy and uncomfortable on use :sweat:

 

[espn]

there's an AFS 80-200, ya?

what do u mean by D n G type glass??
never heard of these b4.. :think:
onli heard of ED glass. :sweatsm:
i onli noe 70-200 is a G type cos no aperture ring..
D as in Distance Info? then both lenses have this technology

Ya, but if you read the threadstarter's query, he was comparing the AF-D 80-200 f/2.8 against the AF-S 70-200VR f/2.8G, so I don't know where the world you want to bring the AF-S 80-200 f/2.8 in, ya?

Simply put, I use the D and G to seperate the aperture ring difference between the two, some might find it a concern for FM bodies which require the aperture ring. Maybe, yes, using D to segregate the glass from G type is wrong, but oh well, it's easier for me to understand (yes, myself) regarding the aperture ring difference.

As for D/G glass, I was referring to the 70-200 entirely as a glass (aka len) as G type. I didn't mean to say it uses G glasses. Thanks for nitpicking.

 

[hackie]

Ya, but if you read the threadstarter's query, he was comparing the AF-D 80-200 f/2.8 against the AF-S 70-200VR f/2.8G, so I don't know where the world you want to bring the AF-S 80-200 f/2.8 in, ya?

Simply put, I use the D and G to seperate the aperture ring difference between the two, some might find it a concern for FM bodies which require the aperture ring. Maybe, yes, using D to segregate the glass from G type is wrong, but oh well, it's easier for me to understand (yes, myself) regarding the aperture ring difference.

As for D/G glass, I was referring to the 70-200 entirely as a glass (aka len) as G type. I didn't mean to say it uses G glasses. Thanks for nitpicking.

if clarifying is nitpicking, then wat's nitpicking?? :bigeyes:

juz clearing my doubts abt the D n G type u mentioned.

 

[espn]

if clarifying is nitpicking, then wat's nitpicking?? :bigeyes:

juz clearing my doubts abt the D n G type u mentioned.

Yes sirrrr, sorry I made you blur about D and G types that I mentioned.

 

[Astin]

Question: Will Nikon make a AF80-200f2.8DX version, maybe shrink to about 700g lens?

 

[TMC]

that will be the day......

Cant imagine a AFS80-200 looking and feeling like a 70-300

 

[espn]

Seriously without the weight, the CG on the bodies + glass won't be affected? Esp if say 80-200DX on a D2X mounted, where would the tripod mount be? On the glass or on the body?

 

[TMC]

if the 80-200 weighs like the 70-300 then it would prob be on the body.

 

[HN31]

Seriously without the weight, the CG on the bodies + glass won't be affected? Esp if say 80-200DX on a D2X mounted, where would the tripod mount be? On the glass or on the body?

The one-touch doesn't have a tripod mount. It's a great lens, but I never liked using it on a tripod - always wondered if the strain would damage the mount.

 

[espn]

The one-touch doesn't have a tripod mount. It's a great lens, but I never liked using it on a tripod - always wondered if the strain would damage the mount.

Eh, the 80-200s have all been great glasses.

I was talking about vapourware 80-200DX...

 

[roti_prata]

I know, but the push/pull design & build makes it feel very heavy over the other two AFD/AFS glasses.

I also surprised to see the weight listed as lighter, but the design made it feel very heavy and uncomfortable on use :sweat:

i totally agree with this. i used to use the push/pull extensively in sch. its ok as long as u dont hand hold it. the push/pull zoom design is oso not meant for handholding IMO. with zoom rings i juz hav to twist it with my index finger and thumb while my palm still holds the lens steady. with push/pull i've got to use my entire hand to zoom causing the lens to jerk. after getting the zoom i want i hav to reaccquire and stabilize b4 i shoot:angry: verry troublesome.

i think for thread-starter, if ur not a very [mobile] fotographer, i.e move around alot, get the afd and a good tripod. vr is more of a convinence at least to me, so is afs(when im not shooting sports that is)

 

[roti_prata]

hijack abit, as espn was talking about cg, is it possible to get tripod collars for mid range zooms like the tokina 28-80? coz its so heavy that when my d70s is mounted on tripod the whole thing tends to tilt 5deg down after i twisted tight the axles

 

[skelanton]

go for 80-200 w/o vr
its a very good lens indeed...

vr is expensive and heavy too but the quality in daylight will have no difference.
based on my experience vr is needed in low light condition...