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wa the grass is always greener than sg...no wonder my ex friend got a girl over there...

ppl have to keep moving on...he try to borrow more $$$ from me just because he got a thail girl pregnent...he being a regular cant understand to as why he no money, have to go around to borrow.

he's close to everything except the never return part....but his regular habit of borrowing money makes his circle of friends feel uneasy end up no choice turn to me....kinda feel like his last choice of backup.
sian.

guess he need to learn a lesson before the next lesson is too big... i wish that thai girl best.

lol. ex friend.

Actually, I kind of understand your friend on this. I am not sure about the entire situation but from according to what I read, I know why your friend is always in need of money. I have lived here long enough to understand how people think here. Don't want to say much but I kind of pity your friend.

Not sure if your friend has been like this when he is in Singapore lah but based only on the situation you mentioned happened in Thailand, I really kind of pity him. He doesn't know too much...
 

Man.. I love BKK.. the bubble bath..the massages..the girls with solid figures.. no wonder my friend gave himself a thai name and got himself a gf there.. haha
 

Finally! Someone appreciates my photography more than just seeing Penthouse girls... Thank you! :D

in every field of photography, even in the lowest given merit of the paparazzi or commerical pornography, good photography can be appreciated. taste is what you make out of it after all the photographic aesthetic is in.

value wise, i may feel the same as yappy. there is always conflict to make social norm to accomodate man's various desire from lust to ego, so disagreement is not unexpected.

but apart from grotesque correlations (like beheading) and things that should never even have happened (such as pedophilism), sex is an indispensable element that will always happen in various forms in various societies. given permission on all grounds and with due respect to the subjects, photographers are just there to image things as they would have happened. the judgement of whether the sex business is to exist and how they would exist, can be left to those who is concerned and who is involved, regardless of the photos.

the same as to the little commotion about a girl who like to pose for nudity, (at the same time publicly known to have a wanton lifestyle), and apparently attracted comments about her not caring about how her parents feel. but frankly speaking, whether she cares about how her parents feel is something that is between her and her parents with which there are plenty of other things that she can do and hurt her family. that can of cos be judged separately from the photographer who takes the artistic nudes for her.

within each of our photographic genre, we practised our code of conduct and integrity, and that would be fine. as i always believed, viewers should do their part to see photography as photography, and comment based on its own merits. the photographic forum is meant for us to talk on whether the pictures are well taken or not. and if so, one would like to be the nasty person who is going to say so and so model or contestant can't make it or something like that, do so as a laymen outside of the photographic forum as we do not wish photographers to be seen as insensitive people who makes hurting remarks ourselves, becos if we ever appear as such to the public, people will not trust us and allows the taking of photographs for them.

it is always ok to have a little joke about things and keep things light hearted, or to go deeper and talk about things that resolves around the subject. but negative remarks are different and should be made with good discretion. if this is true in life in general, it is also true in photography.
 

in every field of photography, even in the lowest given merit of the paparazzi or commerical pornography, good photography can be appreciated. taste is what you make out of it after all the photographic aesthetic is in.

value wise, i may feel the same as yappy. there is always conflict to make social norm to accomodate man's various desire from lust to ego, so disagreement is not unexpected.

but apart from grotesque correlations (like beheading) and things that should never even have happened (such as pedophilism), sex is an indispensable element that will always happen in various forms in various societies. given permission on all grounds and with due respect to the subjects, photographers are just there to image things as they would have happened. the judgement of whether the sex business is to exist and how they would exist, can be left to those who is concerned and who is involved, regardless of the photos.

the same as to the little commotion about a girl who like to pose for nudity, (at the same time publicly known to have a wanton lifestyle), and apparently attracted comments about her not caring about how her parents feel. but frankly speaking, whether she cares about how her parents feel is something that is between her and her parents with which there are plenty of other things that she can do and hurt her family. that can of cos be judged separately from the photographer who takes the artistic nudes for her.

within each of our photographic genre, we practised our code of conduct and integrity, and that would be fine. as i always believed, viewers should do their part to see photography as photography, and comment based on its own merits. the photographic forum is meant for us to talk on whether the pictures are well taken or not. and if so, one would like to be the nasty person who is going to say so and so model or contestant can't make it or something like that, do so outside of the photographic forum as we do not wish photographers to be seen as insensitive people who makes hurting remarks ourselves, becos if we ever appear as such to the public, people will not trust us in taking photographs for them.

Amazingly well said :thumbsup:
 

in every field of photography, even in the lowest given merit of the paparazzi or commerical pornography, good photography can be appreciated. taste is what you make out of it after all the photographic aesthetic is in.

value wise, i may feel the same as yappy. there is always conflict to make social norm to accomodate man's various desire from lust to ego, so disagreement is not unexpected.

but apart from grotesque correlations (like beheading) and things that should never even have happened (such as pedophilism), sex is an indispensable element that will always happen in various forms in various societies. given permission on all grounds and with due respect to the subjects, photographers are just there to image things as they would have happened. the judgement of whether the sex business is to exist and how they would exist, can be left to those who is concerned and who is involved, regardless of the photos.

the same as to the little commotion about a girl who like to pose for nudity, (at the same time publicly known to have a wanton lifestyle), and apparently attracted comments about her not caring about how her parents feel. but frankly speaking, whether she cares about how her parents feel is something that is between her and her parents with which there are plenty of other things that she can do and hurt her family. that can of cos be judged separately from the photographer who takes the artistic nudes for her.

within each of our photographic genre, we practised our code of conduct and integrity, and that would be fine. as i always believed, viewers should do their part to see photography as photography, and comment based on its own merits. the photographic forum is meant for us to talk on whether the pictures are well taken or not. and if so, one would like to be the nasty person who is going to say so and so model or contestant can't make it or something like that, do so as a laymen outside of the photographic forum as we do not wish photographers to be seen as insensitive people who makes hurting remarks ourselves, becos if we ever appear as such to the public, people will not trust us and allows the taking of photographs for them.

it is always ok to have a little joke about things and keep things light hearted, or to go deeper and talk about things that resolves around the subject. but negative remarks are different and should be made with good discretion. if this is true in life in general, it is also true in photography.

Well done. :)
 

Actually, I kind of understand your friend on this. I am not sure about the entire situation but from according to what I read, I know why your friend is always in need of money. I have lived here long enough to understand how people think here. Don't want to say much but I kind of pity your friend.

Not sure if your friend has been like this when he is in Singapore lah but based only on the situation you mentioned happened in Thailand, I really kind of pity him. He doesn't know too much...

in sg, he's also been around sometimes to borrow money especially when he lost a soccer bet...but the worst has to be his thailand case...last i heard he bought his gf to sg as a PR and give birth to a baby girl...wonder does the girl look like him a not...
 

in sg, he's also been around sometimes to borrow money especially when he lost a soccer bet...but the worst has to be his thailand case...last i heard he bought his gf to sg as a PR and give birth to a baby girl...wonder does the girl look like him a not...

maybe a good thing for him. get settled down.
 

in sg, he's also been around sometimes to borrow money especially when he lost a soccer bet...but the worst has to be his thailand case...last i heard he bought his gf to sg as a PR and give birth to a baby girl...wonder does the girl look like him a not...

maybe a good thing for him. get settled down.

If he borrows money to bet on soccer or to return as debt, then it is not commendable lah. If the Thailand case is a genuine mistake, then I still have some pity on him. But I don't quite sure how he manage to bring the Thai girl to Singapore to be PR. Unless we are talking about marriage then the PR-ship is almost immediately.

In Thailand, cases where girls have children without a father is too common. Its everywhere. I assume that the girl works in the night or is working something related to the nightlife? Because girls working in the day will not do this normally.
 

If he borrows money to bet on soccer or to return as debt, then it is not commendable lah. If the Thailand case is a genuine mistake, then I still have some pity on him. But I don't quite sure how he manage to bring the Thai girl to Singapore to be PR. Unless we are talking about marriage then the PR-ship is almost immediately.

In Thailand, cases where girls have children without a father is too common. Its everywhere. I assume that the girl works in the night or is working something related to the nightlife? Because girls working in the day will not do this normally.

think he eventually married the girl in order to bring her over.
i hope that his gf is not someone from a night working environment...
thats why i keep asking him is he sure the baby is his...more ever the lady is 1 year older than him.
from his story, something doesnt sound right to me...
 

think he married the girl in order to bring her over.
i hope that his gf is not someone from a night working environment...
thats why i keep asking him is he sure the baby is his...more ever the lady is 1 year older than him.
from his story, something doesnt sound right to me...

As long as the girl doesn't cheat him now, I seriously think that the past shouldn't matter much. We all have skeletons in our closets, some more than the others. If the baby is not his but he still loves it a lot, I think he should just not ask too many questions. He may not like the answers.
 

As long as the girl doesn't cheat him now, I seriously think that the past shouldn't matter much. We all have skeletons in our closets, some more than the others. If the baby is not his but he still loves it a lot, I think he should just not ask too many questions. He may not like the answers.

I think this thought is very acceptable by many. :)
 

As long as the girl doesn't cheat him now, I seriously think that the past shouldn't matter much. We all have skeletons in our closets, some more than the others. If the baby is not his but he still loves it a lot, I think he should just not ask too many questions. He may not like the answers.

dont think the girl will cheat him but anyway thats not my business anymore especially we are no longer friends.
the only question i ask him was the baby that all...the rest i never ask since i'm more worried about him not returning my ntuc pay than his own personal problem especially when i'm the last line of resort he turn to...before this case, he also stab me in the back earlier (dont want to go into details here) and i still lent him such a sum of money during my poly years...student dont save where got money for books ?

i feel that i done my part as a friend as much as i possibly can already.

come to think of it i also support him to go for my ex-gf so long as he doesnt cheat her...which guy would be in the right state of mind to do that ?
 

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