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ahboy168

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Can't decide which to get.
i never own a mac before, except iphone and ipad.
Whats the pro and cons ?
 

Rashkae

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This can turn into a multi-page fanboi flame thread. Really, best to read the endless online articles with the pros and cons.

To me, both can get the job done, but I find Macs overpriced and hate the glossy screen.
 

fmeeran

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Rashkae said:
This can turn into a multi-page fanboi flame thread. Really, best to read the endless online articles with the pros and cons.

To me, both can get the job done, but I find Macs overpriced and hate the glossy screen.
Gasp! You dare speak against that which our great leader Steve Jobs has willed on us? :p

I don't like apple products. So i won't say anything more.
 

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ahboy168 said:
Can't decide which to get.
i never own a mac before, except iphone and ipad.
Whats the pro and cons ?
Depends on what you need. Each platform has its space. Some applications exhibit better performances and priority in certain platforms. So you have to ask yourself what you really use your system for.

If I may just speak for myself, I use my platform, which is a Mac since 2002, for school work, and development, and then now for work in an IT firm. The main reason for me is the aesthetic value, which is obvious, and the internal beauty, which mostly are appreciated by some that face the console mode most of the time. Between a Linux and Mac, I choose a Mac. But for serious server works and compliance, I choose Linux.

I also own a Windows server that runs hardcore virtualization and for CAD works, where most CAD application excel in this platform. So at the end of the day, the pro and cons differs from people to people. It is a matter of preferences and what you need.

If you never own a Mac, and you want to find out, what you can do with it, the only way is to own one and try out. You have plenty of years ahead of you, there is no need to affix yourself to just one platform. Faithful here means nothing. Getting the right tool to do your work is more meaningful.
 

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Can't decide which to get.
i never own a mac before, except iphone and ipad.
Whats the pro and cons ?
Nothing really. Both are still laptops just that one using OSX and the other Windows. Nowadays most softwares support both platforms so go with the one that rocks your boat. Personally, dollar for dollar go with the one that gives the best graphic card, preferably SSD drive and multiple connections such as display port, hdmi and usb 3.0 because they will come in handy if need to do onsite presentation.
 

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For the cost, windows hardware is more powerful.

Mac looks nicer.

I use a Mac.

End.
 

yrh0413

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It's like comparing Nikon with Canon; there are no clear winner on which is better. Personally I use Mac at home and Windows at work, they are both equally good.

For Photoshop alone, you get the same performance if you run in on a Mac/ Windows PC with identical hardware specs.
 

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It all depends on
1. whats your primary usage for it , as in what applications you want to run on it. ( graphics - photoshop, Cad - Where rendering is done, Video - Editing all these have different processor/grapchics card, hard drive,and memory requirements
2. Whats your budget.
3. Whats the screen size you looking at.
4. Is portability very important
5. is this going to be your Primary Screen or will you be attaching a secondary monitor.
6. Do you work on critical applications that are time sensitive and you cant afford to lose time or work
7. Do you foresee your self upgrading your machine soon

There are many factors that go into why you need to get the right tool for your job.

There are some things which windows are good at and some things which macs are good at.

Macs no longer have the edge what they had a few years back. there are more than competent Pc alternatives also. So answer a few of those questions to help us help you.

Ps. I ain't a Apple fan-boy yet my primary machine is a macbook pro.
 

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For Photoshop alone, you get the same performance if you run in on a Mac/ Windows PC with identical hardware specs.
not entirely true, if your operating system is 64 bit enabled there will be a performance difference of around 6 to 10 % though this is not apparent in regular use but noticeable when you run Photoshop actions on reasonably large files.
 

yrh0413

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kane-rulez said:
not entirely true, if your operating system is 64 bit enabled there will be a performance difference of around 6 to 10 % though this is not apparent in regular use but noticeable when you run Photoshop actions on reasonably large files.
:) OSX Snow Leopard and above are already 64-bit platforms.
 

Rashkae

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not entirely true, if your operating system is 64 bit enabled there will be a performance difference of around 6 to 10 % though this is not apparent in regular use but noticeable when you run Photoshop actions on reasonably large files.
He was talking about hardware. Almost all OS are 64-bit nowadays so your argument is a bit off.
 

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He was talking about hardware. Almost all OS are 64-bit nowadays so your argument is a bit off.
almost = not Entirely true ( same meaning different choice of words depending on context of sentence)

Some pre-installed OS do come as 32 bit options and not all hardware nowadays is 64bit, though in a few years time we may get there. Apart from the OS the Application itself has to be be a 64bit application to work seamlessly as a true 64bit system.
Peace.
 

theRBK

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almost = not Entirely true ( same meaning different choice of words depending on context of sentence)

Some pre-installed OS do come as 32 bit options and not all hardware nowadays is 64bit, though in a few years time we may get there. Apart from the OS the Application itself has to be be a 64bit application to work seamlessly as a true 64bit system.
Peace.
how about this: whether Mac or Windows, software performance, of any particular software, running on systems with similar hardware and a 64bit operating system from Mac or Windows, would be similar... both are just as likely to crash when heavily stressed :)
 

Rashkae

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almost = not Entirely true ( same meaning different choice of words depending on context of sentence)

Some pre-installed OS do come as 32 bit options and not all hardware nowadays is 64bit, though in a few years time we may get there. Apart from the OS the Application itself has to be be a 64bit application to work seamlessly as a true 64bit system.
Peace.
Which modern PC do you think it not 64-bit? Remember, Mac uses normal PC parts too.
 

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Which modern PC do you think it not 64-bit? Remember, Mac uses normal PC parts too.
Most Modern Pc are 64 bit, but its the law of economics at work here. Some Pc manufacturers may rehash an old processor and get out a new model at cheaper rate as they may have stock of that processor.

Case example http://www.dell.com/us/soho/p/laptops.aspx?c=us&cs=ussoho1&l=en&s=soho&~ck=mn#!facets=55103~0~1832806&p=1 the Latitude ST uses a Intel® Atom® Processor Z670 (1.50GHz, 512KB) the Z series are not 64bit capable.
I dont want to hijack this thread just to satisfy our nitpicking over miniscule points which are almost 1% possibility. (almost and maybe are two dangerous words as they neither give a definitive answer.)

I hope the TS just lets us know what he wants so we can get back to helping him.
 

Rashkae

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Most Modern Pc are 64 bit, but its the law of economics at work here. Some Pc manufacturers may rehash an old processor and get out a new model at cheaper rate as they may have stock of that processor.

Case example http://www.dell.com/us/soho/p/laptops.aspx?c=us&cs=ussoho1&l=en&s=soho&~ck=mn#!facets=55103~0~1832806&p=1 the Latitude ST uses a Intel® Atom® Processor Z670 (1.50GHz, 512KB) the Z series are not 64bit capable.
I dont want to hijack this thread just to satisfy our nitpicking over miniscule points which are almost 1% possibility. (almost and maybe are two dangerous words as they neither give a definitive answer.)

I hope the TS just lets us know what he wants so we can get back to helping him.
We're not talking about tablets (the Latitude ST is a TABLET). So if anyone is stretching to find arguments, it's you.
 

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We're not talking about tablets (the Latitude ST is a TABLET). So if anyone is stretching to find arguments, it's you.
ok my bad, your the king of the world.

But A personal computer may be a desktop computer or a laptop, tablet, or a handheld PC. and i am not stretching to find arguments. i did quote about some OS not being 64bit enabled

"almost = not Entirely true ( same meaning different choice of words depending on context of sentence)

Some pre-installed OS do come as 32 bit options and not all hardware nowadays is 64bit, though in a few years time we may get there. Apart from the OS the Application itself has to be be a 64bit application to work seamlessly as a true 64bit system.
Peace. "

you questioned which one and i sent a link. if you did not want it stretched then don't put questions for which you do not want an answer.
 

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ahboy168

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I have an asus netbook now which is almost dead slow.
That explain why i shoot only jpeg, as i need lots of patience to use it.

So, what is my needs.
Basically, basic ms office, canon cd software, maybe some image editing software to try out raw,
Freeware from download.com, etc

Have use ios product like iphone, ipad and AppleTV, but i am worried That "my hand and legs are tied".
It seems to work very well for everything apple.
But what about tons of non-apple softwares which we can download?
Now, i am 60% windows vs 40% ios.
 

qystan

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ahboy168 said:
I have an asus netbook now which is almost dead slow.
That explain why i shoot only jpeg, as i need lots of patience to use it.

So, what is my needs.
Basically, basic ms office, canon cd software, maybe some image editing software to try out raw,
Freeware from download.com, etc

But what about tons of non-apple softwares which we can download?
Now, i am 60% windows vs 40% ios.
The Mac comes with software that will fulfill almost all your needs. iPhoto, iMovie is probably what most photographers will ever need.

There's Aperture or Photoshop if you insist on buying something. MS Office can be substituted with Open Office on Mac or PC.

A pc will need to purchase something to get beyond a web browser.

If you're working with pirated software.....go away.
 

theRBK

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well, if one is looking for low cost options for software (and really who shouldn't be where possible), for photo post production there is GIMP which is free, available for both Windows and Mac (although currently the Windows version is more current), and for office documents and presentations and stuff there is open office, also free and available for Windows and Mac... I would have to say there is probably more freeware for Windows out there, although we should keep to the trustworthy sources for both Windows or Mac... so no need to worry about having to "purchase something to get beyond a web browser" for either Mac or Windows when there are legitimate freeware options... YMMV :)