Fullerton Hotel,One Fullerton& ? Building


andysim65

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1. In what area is critique to be sought?
Andy form of critique and comment is welcome.

2. What one hopes to achieve with the piece of work?
To improve my landscape photography skill by learning from the Expert?

3. Under what circumstance is the picture taken?(physical conditions/emotions)?
Taken around 7.30am with D800 16-35mm lens with tripod, ISO100 20mm F20 3sec.

4.What the critique seeker personally thinks of the picture?
Do the composition work in this picture , does the HDR processing look ok.
Thanks everyone who take their time looking at this picture.
 

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Hi AndySim65,

I won't comment on HDR as personally I have not experience in this area. Composition wise, it fail to resonate with the title. The railings appear to be distracting. Given a choice, I would prefer to position the passage way in the center of the frame to create a leading impact.

Regardless, if the intent is to showcase Fullerton Hotel, I would prefer to give more coverage and choose a different location to shoot such as the one below:

Fullerton Hotel

To answer your question, the composition does not work for me. No offense.
 

andysim65

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Hi AndySim65,

I won't comment on HDR as personally I have not experience in this area. Composition wise, it fail to resonate with the title. The railings appear to be distracting. Given a choice, I would prefer to position the passage way in the center of the frame to create a leading impact.

Regardless, if the intent is to showcase Fullerton Hotel, I would prefer to give more coverage and choose a different location to shoot such as the one below:

Fullerton Hotel

To answer your question, the composition does not work for me. No offense.
no worry, i on the learning path , your comment is good for me , my intention is the show the ? building , is a new building which i got no idea what the name.Thanks
 

SeanGWS

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Hi,

I think the composition you have is rather good, though I agree a little with the other guy that it does not show much of the hotel however, the strong plus point is that the great use of lead-in lines from the handlebars that leads the eye to the "One Fullerton" sign which also works well for me.

The HDR effect is good and balanced, not like some people who like to over do and it loses much of its sense of realism or rather much at times, the overdone effect is the very thing that kill the picture.

The colours are not very over saturated as well which is good, however I feel somehow that the top half of the sky is a little too dark, maybe it's something you have done in photoshop or maybe you were using an ND filter but the only qualms I have with the entire picture is the sort of unbalanced exposure with the top half of the sky.

Other than that, everything else looks really great! Anyway, with that sort of kit you're using, people are more likely to think that you're the pro instead! Haha.
 

andysim65

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Hi,

I think the composition you have is rather good, though I agree a little with the other guy that it does not show much of the hotel however, the strong plus point is that the great use of lead-in lines from the handlebars that leads the eye to the "One Fullerton" sign which also works well for me.

The HDR effect is good and balanced, not like some people who like to over do and it loses much of its sense of realism or rather much at times, the overdone effect is the very thing that kill the picture.

The colours are not very over saturated as well which is good, however I feel somehow that the top half of the sky is a little too dark, maybe it's something you have done in photoshop or maybe you were using an ND filter but the only qualms I have with the entire picture is the sort of unbalanced exposure with the top half of the sky.

Other than that, everything else looks really great! Anyway, with that sort of kit you're using, people are more likely to think that you're the pro instead! Haha.
Thanks for pointing out the good and bad of the picture, yes I was using gnd filter, take note on balancing the picture,photography is my passion
But not a pro, Infact due to my work I have little time for my passion.
 

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1. In what area is critique to be sought?
Andy form of critique and comment is welcome.

2. What one hopes to achieve with the piece of work?
To improve my landscape photography skill by learning from the Expert?

3. Under what circumstance is the picture taken?(physical conditions/emotions)?
Taken around 7.30am with D800 16-35mm lens with tripod, ISO100 20mm F20 3sec.

4.What the critique seeker personally thinks of the picture?
Do the composition work in this picture , does the HDR processing look ok.
Thanks everyone who take their time looking at this picture.
Hihi,

Firstly, also very much a learning amatuer like you, these are just my humble 2 cents opinions, could very well be wrong :sweat:

- The ground is brighter than the sky which is the source of light and is gives an unnatural feel to the photo. Not sure if this is an effect of the build in HDR of D800 ? In Landscapes section, you can refer to Stefan's , Scint's or Edutilos ' threads, very good examples of HDR being done. :)

- Composition wise, the railings seems to be given too much 'weight' in the photo, the more interesting elements like fullerton etc in the background seems to fight for attention. A bit hard to find focus in this photo. Scintt had a very nice shot taken a few metres from this spot and could be used as a good reference. No.334 on this page. http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/land...-[scintt]-random-landscapes-singapore-37.html

- I would suggest not to over rely on HDR & try out other options of increasing dynamic range like Black Card Technique (Scintt's thread has tons of good example) or ND+GND Filters , focus & practise composition ( Edutilos's thread has incredible examples of good composition & all things landscape).

- again all these r my humble suggestions, most important is to enjoy photography as you go along :D

- Great effort for waking so early for this shot, keep shooting :D
 

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Just to add on :

- UWA are very nice especially on a full frame. Lots of articles on the web. Just 2 examples, enjoy reading :D

1. How to Use Ultra-Wide Lenses
Disclaimer : Normally take what Ken Rockwell says with a BIGGGG pinch of salt but this page on usage of UWA actually does makes alot of sense.

2. Photography Tips: How To Use Ultra-Wide Lenses
 

andysim65

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Hihi,

Firstly, also very much a learning amatuer like you, these are just my humble 2 cents opinions, could very well be wrong :sweat:

- The ground is brighter than the sky which is the source of light and is gives an unnatural feel to the photo. Not sure if this is an effect of the build in HDR of D800 ? In Landscapes section, you can refer to Stefan's , Scint's or Edutilos ' threads, very good examples of HDR being done. :)

- Composition wise, the railings seems to be given too much 'weight' in the photo, the more interesting elements like fullerton etc in the background seems to fight for attention. A bit hard to find focus in this photo. Scintt had a very nice shot taken a few metres from this spot and could be used as a good reference. No.334 on this page. http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/land...-[scintt]-random-landscapes-singapore-37.html

- I would suggest not to over rely on HDR & try out other options of increasing dynamic range like Black Card Technique (Scintt's thread has tons of good example) or ND+GND Filters , focus & practise composition ( Edutilos's thread has incredible examples of good composition & all things landscape).

- again all these r my humble suggestions, most important is to enjoy photography as you go along :D

- Great effort for waking so early for this shot, keep shooting :D
This is not a in build HDR by Nikon , I use photomatix software , the three TS u mention are all my idol, Scintt shot I saw before I took this picture, I try not to follow his angle , it make me feel like I trying to copy his angle, I actually want to take the ? Building alone but unfortunately the rain start to pour, so I have to pack up and go.
Thanks for yours suggestion, will take note on it in the future.
 

andysim65

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Just to add on :

- UWA are very nice especially on a full frame. Lots of articles on the web. Just 2 examples, enjoy reading :D

1. How to Use Ultra-Wide Lenses
Disclaimer : Normally take what Ken Rockwell says with a BIGGGG pinch of salt but this page on usage of UWA actually does makes alot of sense.

2. Photography Tips: How To Use Ultra-Wide Lenses
Thanks again for the link will look at it after my work tonight.
 

andysim65

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Just to add on :

- UWA are very nice especially on a full frame. Lots of articles on the web. Just 2 examples, enjoy reading :D

1. How to Use Ultra-Wide Lenses
Disclaimer : Normally take what Ken Rockwell says with a BIGGGG pinch of salt but this page on usage of UWA actually does makes alot of sense.

2. Photography Tips: How To Use Ultra-Wide Lenses
Thanks again for the link will look at it after my work tonight.
 

zaren

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somehow i am not bothered by overcooking the HDR effect....so would like to explore putting more drama into the photo, especially the clouds in the horizon. i like the feeling of walking into something unknown ahead with a slight sense of foreboding.... :)
 

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andysim65

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zaren said:
somehow i am not bothered by overcooking the HDR effect....so would like to explore putting more drama into the photo, especially the clouds in the horizon. i like the feeling of walking into something unknown ahead with a slight sense of foreboding.... :)
Now the picture look more balance,definitely more interesting ,and the path with the line marking more obvious made it more mysterious . Thanks giving the pic more interesting look.
 

MGohzxc

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Overall, the frame look very busy. The HDR is not properly done and loses focus and sharpness. The composition don't really relate to the title. You probably can crop away some of the sky and crop the right side to focus the viewer more to the Fullerton Hotel and One Fullerton. Here is an example but will be good to reshoot.

 

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andysim65

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Overall, the frame look very busy. The HDR is not properly done and loses focus and sharpness. The composition don't really relate to the title. You probably can crop away some of the sky and crop the right side to focus the viewer more to the Fullerton Hotel and One Fullerton. Here is an example but will be good to reshoot.

I like the sky and the right crop , definitely look better and cleaner, and more focus on the building now . Thanks for the example.
 

zaren

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you can try shooting with a higher camera angle to achieve a greater separation between the railings and the buildings in the frame.
 

andysim65

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you can try shooting with a higher camera angle to achieve a greater separation between the railings and the buildings in the frame.
yeh , i think that should be a better option, good suggestion, thanks.
 

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Personally, I find the way you composed to scene and the railings is just too distracting. The railings does more to distract than to add to the scene, If you compose without the end of the railing (the big piece on the right center), it might work better. To accomplish that, place your setup right up to that piece of railing, and shot over it.
 

andysim65

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daredevil123 said:
Personally, I find the way you composed to scene and the railings is just too distracting. The railings does more to distract than to add to the scene, If you compose without the end of the railing (the big piece on the right center), it might work better. To accomplish that, place your setup right up to that piece of railing, and shot over it.
Thanks for your suggestion , I use to shoot higher for most of my shot , but this one I didn't, good to know that it doesn't work.
 

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