but 99% of the time BNS is without warranty, so you are not comparing apples to apples, or maybe i just dont get it.
Does Lemon Law covers grey units?
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but 99% of the time BNS is without warranty, so you are not comparing apples to apples, or maybe i just dont get it.
does second hand sales in BnS really qualified under the lemon law? most of the time we deal with fellow forumers COD and the buyer doesn't get any receipt.
how to proof if a sale has been done if there is no receipt? :dunno:
how to proof if a sale has been done if there is no receipt? :dunno:
more easily understood as:
buy and sell section cheaper because no warranty . but when warranty in brand new is very strongly enforced and buy sell price is close to brand new , buyers may choose brand new because of warranty.
hence to be more attractive , second hand items would have to be priced more competitively meaning cheaper .
of course for items out of production eg 50 mm f 1.0 , etc this principle does not apply
buy and sell section cheaper because no warranty . but when warranty in brand new is very strongly enforced and buy sell price is close to brand new , buyers may choose brand new because of warranty.
hence to be more attractive , second hand items would have to be priced more competitively meaning cheaper .
of course for items out of production eg 50 mm f 1.0 , etc this principle does not apply
a items if it new and with proof of purchase, lemom law applied. But not those can eat food la. I got a Furby toy from Toy r us. It does not come with warranty. after 10 days, it come to a stop. dun move at all. write to the main office, offer a 1 to 1 exchange.
no, it does not. failed point 2 in my earlier post. i guess most readers here relate second hand as BNS. No, it means second hand bought from retailers.
Actually, i always question myself, what is "personal warranty". so i prefer the term "check on the spot".
TigerOyster said:Actually, i always question myself, what is "personal warranty". so i prefer the term "check on the spot".
Sadly you are right. The term personal warranty these days hold no water. BUT for those of us who DO value our reputation, I strongly believe in still offering a personal warranty and actually standing by it.
Some may say its dumb of me but to be perfectly honest, because I won't like to be screwed by others, I try to honour my agreement with my buyers too. Unless the item I sell is STILL under warranty then different story.
Lemon Law covers grey units, red units, yellow units... It doesn't discriminate against any product that is of a different color
Let's make it very clear here
Lemon law only covers Business to Consumers (B to C). It doesn't cover consumer to consumer (C to C)
So this clearly rules out any BNS sales where one individual is selling to another individual.
And this also clearly covers shops selling to individuals, be it Grey or Authorised.
So no need to argue so much here.
Lemon law only covers Business to Consumers (B to C). It doesn't cover consumer to consumer (C to C)
So this clearly rules out any BNS sales where one individual is selling to another individual.
And this also clearly covers shops selling to individuals, be it Grey or Authorised.
So no need to argue so much here.
Exactly. Thus it is now better to buy from shop than to buy from BNS, unless the price is right, which most of the time its way wrong. Will pay 70-80% of brand new street price for pre owned gear if buying from pre-owned shops. But will only pay 30-50% from hobbyists. Especially with the amount of wolves around.
The 'personal warranty' is offered black on white here, and after money changed hands it becomes part of the verbal agreement both parties have. Legally, it can be enforced. But to find out how serious the seller is, all it needs is the golden question of writing down all details on a sheet of paper
I also don't understand some people's hostility towards parallel importers. They are actually doing us, the consumers, a favour. Without them, the official channel will sell products at even higher prices because the parallel importers would not be there to provide some competition.
