This one is worse, they cheat they own people.
This one is worse, they cheat they own people.
Which part ??
Nigeria Scam is famous for cheating overseas people of their $$$... are you saying that all the above example, foreigners are mainly the target ?? :think:
Actually I thought it's the other way? Their people willingly gets cheated by them ;p
Agree, so this is not cheating as Sun Ho's videos have been on the internet for a long time and members know what they are in for. The members give willingly and they should be praised for their pure sacrifice and for giving to a cause they believed in until their "heart is broken."
The guy looks like the DIABLO! So EVIL! haha!
This is so true, especially in trying times like this. Every dollar will be worth double the points in heaven.
i beg to differ. i don't think most of the congregation had no idea what was going on.
Did I say Christian church? Or Did I say catholic church / baptist church / parish church? If u are offended by the use of words CHURCH then maybe you should also write to the press to avoid using of the words CHURCH OR SPECIFICALLY CITY HARVEST CHURCH. Again I didn't infer to Christian church alThough one's can get the specific church from the press / news / pastors.So you're saying that you did not specifically mention one religion. you did state "CHURCH" only, while all the other options (except NKF) were organizations in-general.
and this is your original post:
The man is being charged in a secular court. What in the world has faith gotta do with it? If he has indeed abused the money entrusted to him then he is indeed evil, nothing wrong with his words at all.
Jesus has also said: ""Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's"
So if people are ecstatic to sell their houses and render unto him their things then that is their right.
In my eyes he has done no wrong. Rev Kong Hee has already declared to everyone that he is a businessman.
:: City Harvest Church (2012) ::
Jesus has also said: ""Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's"
Render unto Caesar... - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia...
So if people are ecstatic to sell their houses and render unto him their things then that is their right.
He is only wrong in the eyes and laws of men. BTW, anyone has any idea which accounting firm is used by CHC?
Rev Kong said, “We always try to be as transparent as we can in all our activities. Our accounts are audited yearly by a public accounting firm.”
i think you mis-interprete this, and quote it out of context ... the money does not have Pastor Kong Hee's face on the note.... so, the people are giving him money belonging to Republic of Singapore to Pastor Kong Hee. Taking things which does not belong to you,... in pure English translation means stealing. Maybe i should express it in aramic to avoid mis-interpretation?
Please do not start quoting the bible in this case as it is irrelevant.
dreaming said:Did I say Christian church? Or Did I say catholic church / baptist church / parish church? If u are offended by the use of words CHURCH then maybe you should also write to the press to avoid using of the words CHURCH OR SPECIFICALLY CITY HARVEST CHURCH. Again I didn't infer to Christian church alThough one's can get the specific church from the press / news / pastors.
Abetter Solution for you is consider using TEMPLE. If it makeup sound less nasty and stop barking like a mad dog.
Are u a Christian.? Btw
ok, i feel that this thread needs to be moderated now.
anyway personally i have nothing against church or religion.
but with exception, i dun feel CHC operates like a church, more like a company and their super star is their pastor Kong and their worshippers worship him as if he is the god.
anyway i also got some doubts:
- are church even allow to setup affiliation, subsidiaries etc to engage in commercial activities like investment?
- is the current cash donation process transparent? I understand from my gf who is a CHC member... that cash donation were made to an envelop... imagine 23K members... each donate $200 for example... they can easily undeclare XX millions, who will know? who is going to audit their cash donation?
now it makes me wonder why i study so much and i can never earn as much as them. maybe i should take up bible studies or buddhism study then be a pastor or monk to start a church or temple.
now it makes me wonder why i study so much and i can never earn as much as them. maybe i should take up bible studies or buddhism study then be a pastor or monk to start a church or temple.
I'm a chc member here...