Is it possible to achieve "Bokehs" with normal PnS cameras?
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For LX3, a close up lens is probably needed to get that close to the fly e.g. Raynox 250
As others mentioned, bokeh is the quality of background blur. and it is more difficult to achieve back ground blur with PnS. Even the bokeh achieved (like in Macro mode) will not be that nice compared to what achieved by dslr.
Taken with my PnS, certainly not the sharpest close-up I've ever seen, but I'm more intrigued with the background "rings" which I thought are what "Bokehs" are about? First time I've seen this from my cam. What do you guys think of it?
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Taken with my PnS, certainly not the sharpest close-up I've ever seen, but I'm more intrigued with the background "rings" which I thought are what "Bokehs" are about? First time I've seen this from my cam. What do you guys think of it?
I think it is bad bokeh. oops.
i think those are bad bokeh too... :bsmilie::bsmilie:
as others said earlier, bokeh is quite subjective, can read the following links if you are interested. :bsmilie:
http://www.rickdenney.com/bokeh_test.htm
http://toothwalker.org/optics/bokeh.html
cheers
Nope... I didn't use any adaptors... just plain vanilla LX3
No adapter...COOL! and the DOF is juz nice for Macro!:thumbsup:
Haha! No worries, I'm not expecting beautiful bokehs with my simple PnS. But at least I know now that it can be done (however crummy the sharpness of the close-up and bad the bokehs are).
I think I know what bad bokehs are: the rings look like "Donuts"... while a good bokeh means glowly rounds without pronounced edges. A neutral means just white discs without pronouced edges and without the glowly center either...
Thanks guys. :bsmilie:
But bad bokehs are still bokehs though, and are probably subjective from one person to another.
I think I know what bad bokehs are: the rings look like "Donuts"... while a good bokeh means glowly rounds without pronounced edges. A neutral means just white discs without pronouced edges and without the glowly center either...
Thanks guys. :bsmilie:
But bad bokehs are still bokehs though, and are probably subjective from one person to another.
I even had one done with my nokia N97 with a grasshopper as the focus and the background is blurred or "bokeh" like.
So y not with a point and shoot which should be much better than my camera phone.
Taken with my PnS, certainly not the sharpest close-up I've ever seen, but I'm more intrigued with the background "rings" which I thought are what "Bokehs" are about? First time I've seen this from my cam. What do you guys think of it?
This is ni-sen bokeh, which is considered bad bokeh.
As far as I know, DOF is determined only by:
- lens' focal length
- aperture
- camera --> subject --> background distance
To achieve a sufficiently out-of-focus background with a pns will require more physical separation between subject and background.
The term "bokeh" should be put to bed I think... for some reason photographers think it's cool to use this term freely...
- lens' focal length
- aperture
- camera --> subject --> background distance
To achieve a sufficiently out-of-focus background with a pns will require more physical separation between subject and background.
The term "bokeh" should be put to bed I think... for some reason photographers think it's cool to use this term freely...
The original question posed was whether normal PnS can produce images with "bokehs". By normal I meant PnS cams without manual / aperture controls, etc... So, the answer is a "Yes"? Provided of course that we're shooting in pure Macro mode (with sufficient background distance) and not general walk-around shots that is...
I know it's a bad bokeh from my image, and thank you for a more specific term ("ni-sen").
If normal PnS cams can capture images with "beautiful" bokehs then that will be the day high-end PnS and DSLR users would cry foul play, wouldn't they? :bsmilie:
I know it's a bad bokeh from my image, and thank you for a more specific term ("ni-sen").
If normal PnS cams can capture images with "beautiful" bokehs then that will be the day high-end PnS and DSLR users would cry foul play, wouldn't they? :bsmilie:
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I think most of the PnS cameras can achieve bokeh only when taking a subject that is relatively close. Played with my sis's digicam tt claimed to have a bokeh function, possible if taking a near subject but if taking a full body portrait then it's not really possible.
NOPE.
Sensor size affects the focal length of the lens required to achieve the same field of view.
So in actual fact sensor size does not directly affect depth of field...
actually your question is whether a normal PnS can produce images which render the background out of focus, am I right?
The term 'bokeh' is incorrectly used in your question.
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