First dSLR - what to get???
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... I afraid that after some time upgrade, then have to sell D40 at a lost ... but also means that if I give up on the hobby, I have lesser lost. :bsmilie:
If you are really keen in photography and you can afford it, I don't see any reason why you can't go straight to a 30D or D200.
If you think you will give up the hobby then don't think about spending any money. Find another hobby that will definitely last and use the money there.
I know I am serious about photography, researched and found the best brand (to me) and bought the best model I can afford and that is the one not on your poll - D80 ;p
I know I am serious about photography, researched and found the best brand (to me) and bought the best model I can afford and that is the one not on your poll - D80 ;p
bousozoku
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If you're that undecided, do nothing because you shouldn't put yourself in a situation you'll possibly regret later.
If I were buying something from Nikon today, without a dSLR, I'd probably buy a D80 or wait for the replacement for the D200.
Is there any reason, you're not mentioning Olympus or Pentax?
If I were buying something from Nikon today, without a dSLR, I'd probably buy a D80 or wait for the replacement for the D200.
Is there any reason, you're not mentioning Olympus or Pentax?
But my fingers are itchy and wanted to shoot leh....especially all my friends are shooting and enjoying themselves so much...
I am just putting Nikon and Canon as examples... I have seen their ads in so many places that I can remember their model numbers easily.
bousozoku
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I'd remind you that you get more full-featured cameras at similar prices by buying Olympus or Pentax.
Hey dude. No one can tell u what to do. Looking at ur posts, are u sure u will like photography? It's not for everyone.
Don't mean to be rude, if u can be in a situation thinking of whether to get D40 or 30D and D200, u might just as well get D40. Apparantly, u have not got the understanding for the use for a semi-pro model. And, u don need a dSLR to shoot well, don be misled by commercials and marketing stuff. Of course, if u are using a dSLR, it really does offers much more capability than normal prosumers or compacts, but have you gone to the stage where by u need that kind of gear? U may end up having a $1-2k equipment sitting there, not utilising them well; of course if u are happy of doing that, it's none of my business either.
Like what i always post, I will recommend ppl who are in the stage of "still not sure" or "newbie wanna play with cameras", to just get a good prosumer camera. Fuji has some good ones like the S9600, Sony also had some good ones. These cameras should be able to let u play with many features offered in dSLRs, at a low price and not having to be concern about maintenance too much. Furthermore, if u discovered that u really like photography, by then u would have known what kinda things u really like taking (landscape, portrait, telephoto, etc) and have at least some good knowledge technically. The S9600 should cover a good range for most things you might wanna shoot.
Also, getting a prosumer can be win-win situation as:
If u plan to get dSLR --> keep the prosumer (or sell it) for travelling usage or for other purpose. Trust me, u will not like the feeling of carrying ur dSLR gears all over the place all the time.
If u don like photography --> u'll end up with a not so expensive and more advance than compact camera camera (not to mention, u will save $).
But if you very sure u really want a dSLR and will not settle for anything less, try getting one in the B&S to start off with. D70s is also good.
Don't mean to be rude, if u can be in a situation thinking of whether to get D40 or 30D and D200, u might just as well get D40. Apparantly, u have not got the understanding for the use for a semi-pro model. And, u don need a dSLR to shoot well, don be misled by commercials and marketing stuff. Of course, if u are using a dSLR, it really does offers much more capability than normal prosumers or compacts, but have you gone to the stage where by u need that kind of gear? U may end up having a $1-2k equipment sitting there, not utilising them well; of course if u are happy of doing that, it's none of my business either.
Like what i always post, I will recommend ppl who are in the stage of "still not sure" or "newbie wanna play with cameras", to just get a good prosumer camera. Fuji has some good ones like the S9600, Sony also had some good ones. These cameras should be able to let u play with many features offered in dSLRs, at a low price and not having to be concern about maintenance too much. Furthermore, if u discovered that u really like photography, by then u would have known what kinda things u really like taking (landscape, portrait, telephoto, etc) and have at least some good knowledge technically. The S9600 should cover a good range for most things you might wanna shoot.
Also, getting a prosumer can be win-win situation as:
If u plan to get dSLR --> keep the prosumer (or sell it) for travelling usage or for other purpose. Trust me, u will not like the feeling of carrying ur dSLR gears all over the place all the time.
If u don like photography --> u'll end up with a not so expensive and more advance than compact camera camera (not to mention, u will save $).
But if you very sure u really want a dSLR and will not settle for anything less, try getting one in the B&S to start off with. D70s is also good.
But both brands don't have the same range of lens across the market spectrum. Both Nikon and Canon have many more lenses targeted at the consumer market. Choosing between a consumer and pro grade body is fine, the difference is a few hundred bucks at most, at least between the 400D and 30D, but the price difference between a consumer and pro grade kit of lens can be many thousands of dollars. Also, more third party lenses exist for Nikon and Canon than for Pentax and Olympus..
My personal take.....
Start with a lowest level, and learn... lower cost... and see if you like photography or not...
Once you advance and learn more, get a better cam in 2-3 yrs time....
Cost of cam now est. $1330..... for a 400D.... and then you either...
1. Stop liking photography and sell you cam... you lose lesser money, lower initial cost....
2. You learn and develop your skills in 2-3 yrs and upgrade to a XXD semi pro body.... cost of body could be lower, maybe $1300-1600 by then. Then, you use your current body as a back up.....
So for me, this is a win-win situation from my perspective.
Start with a lowest level, and learn... lower cost... and see if you like photography or not...
Once you advance and learn more, get a better cam in 2-3 yrs time....
Cost of cam now est. $1330..... for a 400D.... and then you either...
1. Stop liking photography and sell you cam... you lose lesser money, lower initial cost....
2. You learn and develop your skills in 2-3 yrs and upgrade to a XXD semi pro body.... cost of body could be lower, maybe $1300-1600 by then. Then, you use your current body as a back up.....
So for me, this is a win-win situation from my perspective.
i would also recommend you start at the lowest level because at the moment you do not know what to look for in a camera or if you'll even make use of the camera to justify the cost.
start with an entry level dslr...used would be great. this way you can learn what features matter to you in a camera, your style of shooting, what kind of lenses you want, etc... from that you can make a better decision on which mid-level dslr to get.
start with an entry level dslr...used would be great. this way you can learn what features matter to you in a camera, your style of shooting, what kind of lenses you want, etc... from that you can make a better decision on which mid-level dslr to get.
bousozoku
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Yes, there are a lot of old and poor quality lenses available for Nikon and Canon and you don't get that variety available for Pentax and Olympus. That's a positive to me because you have less of a chance of wasting your money on rubbish.
Olympus and Pentax have done a good job covering the market with lenses that consumers will need without disgracing their names.
Maybe you can name a few lenses that "disgraced their name"... almost all lenses sold by nikon and canon has optimised for digital and are not "old and poor quality" as you put it... more lenses mean i can look around and choose the ones that are of the most value for money.... when your lens selections are limited you'll be forced to swallow watever their asking price is.... 3rd party makers also tend to concentrate on the big 2.... try sourcing for a 200-500mm for Pentax / Olympus mount and you'll know what I mean.... don't live in denial, more lens choices is always a good thing
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