Who actually manufactures what ?


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Pablo

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Hi there all,

As a salesperson in the camera field, I get to hear many varied things from rep's as to who actually makes things.

To give you a few ......

There are only two manufacturers of photographic paper used in photo labs such as Fuji, Kodak, Minolta etc.
The companies are both in France.

There are only 3 or 4 manufacturers of memory cards ... Sandisk is one.

80% of all p&s cameras are made by Sanyo.

I hear all sorts of things :bsmilie:

I remember when Canon had a sub 1MP camera with no optical zoom and the rep said that the added glass
to provide the optical zoom would cut down available light :bigeyes:

Another one, an Epson rep' said that the reason Canon have white lens barrels is to reduce the heat so the flurite doesn't warp.

"Nikon have white barrel lens too"

If I took the time to remember it all it would go on for a long time...... :bsmilie:

What do you know or think of things I have mentioned above.

Hit or myth :dunno:

Interested to hear some feedback :)
 

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Another one, an Epson rep' said that the reason Canon have white lens barrels is to reduce the heat so the flurite doesn't warp.
I read from some Nikon site that they wanted to try Flourite lens but due to high warping under extreme conditions, they opted for UD glass instead.:dunno:
 

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canon white lens is quite correct. fluorite lens are very vulnerable to heat so they use white to reduce radiation on the lens body. since telephoto lens are assumed to be under bright sunlight conditions. for sports mah.

photo paper i not sure. what are the brands there? kodak? fuji? kodak is USA IIRC.

as for memory chips that is quite true. only have a few big players. then they will OEM their products to other companies and the list goes on... kingston is one of them!
 

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Hey,

Interesting find XXXBoy :thumbsup:

Had not known of that one.

As from the Canon rep' .... Canon first used the white lens to make it stand out from others ... not because of heat.

As from the Nikon rep' (I have not looked into) there are a few Nikon lens that have white barrels (no flurite).

Please add anything further people. It gets interesting. :)

Oh by the way, check into the flurite lens bit !!!

The Canon rep' tells me the element is not fully flurite, simply flurite coated glass (grown on to the glass?)

Oh, another thing ......

Sony P&S with Carl Zeis lens ..... made by or made under licence to.

Same with Kodak P&S .... Schneider or made under licence to ?

And who actually makes CCD and CMOS sensors ?


Keep it coming hehehehehe
 

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You didn't read carefully: he said 'glass'.......Nikon make their own glass, the substance that your lens is made off......

The white Canon lenses are indeed white because of the Fluorite that they use, and the ED (not UD) glass is less prone to that, but still all material will expand under higher temp.....so Nikon also has grey lenses (read grey as in grey colour, not grey as in grey imported lenses :))

Other glass makers are Schott and Hoya.......

HS
 

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As far as I can remember from reading the older Canon lens books, also Canon used to make their own glass, and fluorite off course, which I think is a crystal (?).......

HS
 

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Actually, China manufactures everything. :bsmilie:
 

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If I remember correctly (IIRC) there are 4 glass makers in the world for lenses:

Schott
Hoya
Nikon
one more in China

HS
 

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What I remember is Zeiss (may or may not be a glass maker themself previously), hand grinds each & every single lens. That's why they command such high prices and are so sought after.

Sony is one of the few manufactuers for the CCDs; Nikon uses them when they first entered the DSLR market; not sure if they still do.
 

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What I remember is Zeiss (may or may not be a glass maker themself previously), hand grinds each & every single lens. That's why they command such high prices and are so sought after.

Sony is one of the few manufactuers for the CCDs; Nikon uses them when they first entered the DSLR market; not sure if they still do.
cant be lah... the kind of errors a human can make will probably render the lens unusable.
 

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Hi,

What thoughts on this bit .....

Sony P&S with Carl Zeis lens ..... made by Carl Zeis or made under licence to Carl Zeis. :think:

Same for Kodak P&S with Schneider lens .... made by Schneider or made under licence to Schneider :dunno:
 

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cant be lah... the kind of errors a human can make will probably render the lens unusable.
You obviously are aman of the modern times with too much trust in technology :)

Hand grinding of glass can result in higher quality lenses (but very low capacity), higher than machine grinded.....

I made my own parabolic (note: not spherical) mirror for a newton telescope in the early eighties, and the quality was much higher than mirrors from ready made telescopes if you have the right tools to inspect the surface.......but in the end I didn't finish the telescope itself, but thats another story.

Handmade products can be of higher quality than machine made, in fact in many cases it is.....

HS
 

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Some urban legends to share too.

most P&S are churned out from Sony factory.

Components made in Taiwan, Parts assembled in Thailand/China, but Final QC in Japan... so made in Japan.
 

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You obviously are aman of the modern times with too much trust in technology :)

Hand grinding of glass can result in higher quality lenses (but very low capacity), higher than machine grinded.....

I made my own parabolic (note: not spherical) mirror for a newton telescope in the early eighties, and the quality was much higher than mirrors from ready made telescopes if you have the right tools to inspect the surface.......but in the end I didn't finish the telescope itself, but thats another story.

Handmade products can be of higher quality than machine made, in fact in many cases it is.....

HS
haha.. yea i'm from mech eng mah..

not trying to challenge u lah but that's true to a certain extent also. machines also have different tolerences and the output quality depends on the precision of the machine. even if you hand polish, it's still up to a high-precision machine to check the quality of the mirror/lens right? so technically if much money is put into super low tolerence manufacturing machines, u'll probably get good quality stuffs.

and also, handmade stuffs can also mean inconsistant quality even tho the quality of individual items may be higher, no?
 

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