What happens if you buy a set that is stolen goods?


Status
Not open for further replies.

tutu

New Member
Jul 28, 2003
56
0
0
Visit site
Hi bros,

Anyone can advise the consequences if you unwitting bought a stolen camera?

Or anyone knows if Canon publishes a list of cameras (with S/No) that has gone missing from their warehouses etc?
 

Del_CtrlnoAlt

Senior Member
Feb 15, 2003
16,265
0
0
Outside the Dry Box.
Visit site
tutu said:
Hi bros,

Anyone can advise the consequences if you unwitting bought a stolen camera?

Or anyone knows if Canon publishes a list of cameras (with S/No) that has gone missing from their warehouses etc?
dun think they will post... but u can just ask them...
 

zaxh81

Senior Member
Jan 29, 2003
4,338
0
36
Earth
if you have not done so then you shouldn't be worrying too much.
 

Wai

Senior Member
Jan 17, 2002
5,270
0
36
41
South Pole with Penguin
singastro.org
hmm..never heard of any news report on stolen camera from Canon's warehouse.

On the other hand, chances of buying a stolen nikon camera is much higher

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=170229


5000 units of Nikon cameras worth 440 million gone with the wind in 10minutes
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/051230/12/1k00c.html

year 2003, 192 units of D100 got stolen
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0301/03010301stolend100s.asp

year 2004, 108 units of D70 got stolen
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0407/04072807nikond70stolen.asp

year 2005 april, 47 units of D2x got stolen
http://dcdv.zol.com.cn/2005/0418/164610.shtml

year 2005 july, 2504 units of D50 got stolen
http://www.singpao.com/20050729/local/741530.html

year 2005 december, 5000 units got stolen
http://www.dpnet.com.cn/news/news.asp?id=10535

What's next? D200?
http://www.dpnet.com.cn/news/news.asp?id=10155

从这么多事件中我们不难发现,近来只要是尼康新上市的热销单反数码相机,都会遭遇一回失窃。不论数量多少价格多少,都让这款相机成为当红明星。当然这样的“失窃”事件,也使得这些机型卖得更为火爆!这些到底是尼康的炒作手段还是确有其事呢?为什么别的厂商不偷,唯独就你们尼康频频失窃呢?
 

paradigm

Senior Member
Aug 12, 2004
3,672
0
0
Think that so long as you did not knowingly receive one that is stolen, it should be alright as you got a good "title" for it.

Moreover, dun think that anyone goes ard checking camera. Most of the discovery is when you bring it to the service centre. By then, usually so long after that it would have been impossible to track who you bought from in the first place ...
 

hongjone

Senior Member
Jan 6, 2006
1,275
0
36
Singapore
Have been seeing some lenses selling much cheaper, but without warranty. Where does it come from? Is it safe to buy them? Are they stolen? :dunno: Thanks.
 

EUGSEOW

New Member
Jan 16, 2006
85
0
0
No warranty could mean its parallel imported, not necessarily a stolen set. :)


hongjone said:
Have been seeing some lenses selling much cheaper, but without warranty. Where does it come from? Is it safe to buy them? Are they stolen? :dunno: Thanks.
 

hongjone

Senior Member
Jan 6, 2006
1,275
0
36
Singapore
EUGSEOW said:
No warranty could mean its parallel imported, not necessarily a stolen set. :)
Ahh! I see. Pardon me for the ignorance, parallel imported, is what people calling it grey sets? or what? Have been seeing this "grey set" quite often. Thanks.
 

tutu

New Member
Jul 28, 2003
56
0
0
Visit site
I happen to come across someone selling 5d at 5K, Brand new. He mentioned that he has a few sets. That's why I was kind of worried, yet at the same time, attracted by the lower price. Should I or should I not?
 

oeyvind

Senior Member
Feb 25, 2002
3,833
1
38
www.oeyvind.org
tutu said:
I happen to come across someone selling 5d at 5K, Brand new. He mentioned that he has a few sets. That's why I was kind of worried, yet at the same time, attracted by the lower price. Should I or should I not?
sure since places like jp u can get for 4.4k or so
 

EUGSEOW

New Member
Jan 16, 2006
85
0
0
Hong Kong is selling EOS-5D Body at around S$5k only.

tutu said:
I happen to come across someone selling 5d at 5K, Brand new. He mentioned that he has a few sets. That's why I was kind of worried, yet at the same time, attracted by the lower price. Should I or should I not?
 

meow_meow

New Member
Feb 1, 2006
88
0
0
5K izzit local sets ? if not then not really so cheap..

tutu said:
I happen to come across someone selling 5d at 5K, Brand new. He mentioned that he has a few sets. That's why I was kind of worried, yet at the same time, attracted by the lower price. Should I or should I not?
 

EUGSEOW

New Member
Jan 16, 2006
85
0
0
What do you meant by local set? Its a local Hong Kong set with Canon Hong Kong 12-mth warranty.

meow_meow said:
5K izzit local sets ? if not then not really so cheap..
 

meow_meow

New Member
Feb 1, 2006
88
0
0
I mean if it is local singapore sets or grey sets.

EUGSEOW said:
What do you meant by local set? Its a local Hong Kong set with Canon Hong Kong 12-mth warranty.
 

EUGSEOW

New Member
Jan 16, 2006
85
0
0
I dunno about Singapore grey set. My Hong Kong friend told me about it.

meow_meow said:
I mean if it is local singapore sets or grey sets.
 

buckwheat

New Member
Nov 15, 2004
209
0
0
tutu said:
Hi bros,

Anyone can advise the consequences if you unwitting bought a stolen camera?

Or anyone knows if Canon publishes a list of cameras (with S/No) that has gone missing from their warehouses etc?
Taken out to Changi to "hang" out...
 

solarii

New Member
Oct 20, 2005
1,354
0
0
Bt. Timah
If you unwittingly bought stolen goods, and the rightful owner can prove that it's their's then you have to return it. The police won't press charges, but there'll be a thorough investigation conducted, which translates into inconvenience for you since you'll have to explain how you got the item, from who etc. Also, you won't be compensated for your loss.

Here are some tips for those who're thinking of buying 2nd hand:

1)Always insist on seeing the IC and taking down the particulars of the person you bought the item from. That way, if there's ever a dispute over rightful ownership, you can refer the relevant authorities to the person you dealt with. Handphone no.s and addresses can change, but with an IC the person can always be tracked down.

2) Insist on getting at least a receipt for the item. Better yet original packaging. If there's no receipt cos the item's a redeemed gift, ask the seller to sign a purchase agreement. That will serve as proof that you got the item from a legitimate transaction, and not by other dubious means.

3) Do not assume that the item isn't stolen just because the guy can produce a receipt and original packaging. The item could have been stolen from someone's home. Ironically a lot of people keep their receipts in the boxes placed NEXT to or near their dry box. The burglar could've swiped the lot. Talk to the guy, see if he's familiar with the item he's selling, esp. he he claims to have used it.

At the end of the day, exercise caution. Most CSers here are legit, so there's a very low risk. Even then you don't want to be part of the odd statistic. It may seem a little awkward to ask for someone's IC, but if he's legit he should have no probs. And it'll save you loads of hassle if there are disputes later. And no you won't be sent to jail for unknowingly buying stolen stuff.
 

tutu

New Member
Jul 28, 2003
56
0
0
Visit site
that's what I always do when I trade with CSers. However, the concerned party is in Malaysia. Apparently, he doesnt seems to be very familiar with cameras, that's was why I kind of wonder the source of the camera, esp a 5d.
 

unseen

Senior Member
Dec 14, 2004
2,622
0
36
NTU and Wdls
well actually, if it's a stolen set, and you bought it, there's nothing anyone can do unless you voluntarily return it.
Anyway there's nothing the police can do to FORCE you return the set. The only way is for the previous owner to take up a expensive lawsuit. highly unlikely.
I've been there. Police arrested the thief who appropriated about $4k of my money. they told me the police can't force the thief to return me any $$, only throw the fella to court. Need lawsuit to get anything back.

If you can show the police that you bought the set without knowing it's stolen, there's no fault on your side. Chances are they'll return it to you after investigation based on past practices both here and internationally. Though, the item may be taken for investigation for quite a while. Haha, at least, Singapore Police is quite efficient.
Afterall, you're the owner now.
 

denniskee

Senior Member
Oct 26, 2003
5,469
2
38
bukit batok
Visit site
so now which is correct, unseen or solari. now you guys make me worry about getting 2nd stuff:sweat:
 

Status
Not open for further replies.