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:bsmilie: :thumbsup:projekts said:you shoot, he generate loss... Must Stay Away from You :bsmilie:
:bsmilie: :thumbsup:projekts said:you shoot, he generate loss... Must Stay Away from You :bsmilie:
zhang3feng said:when i was studying... we will get some job lobang once in a while as free lance.. b'coz these pple know we are student, the $$$ they give also lower.. but they still PAY!
i find that people who are jus starting or newbies building portfolio.. no matter how good or bad.. u shd at least charge a small sum of $$$ so that it will not spoil the market with the word "FREE"... it's not doing u any good too... :dunno:
dang.. i fall into this cat also..projekts said:you shoot, he generate loss... Must Stay Away from You :bsmilie:
can't resisit this, but higher end swiss watches are all automatics...SoToNgMaN said:Had anyone considered changing batteries at $120 per battery for higher-end swiss watches??
synapseman said:I
But still, I also agree that there are many "chao-kuan" people out there who will take advantage of others any way they can.:thumbsd:
NE clicks clicks said:Not only are there "chao kuan" people, there are "chao kuan" company as well.
I used to work in a manufacturing company who ask me to take some photos of their new products upon seeing that I have a SLR which I brought to work cos going on a photo shoot after work.
They wanted me to shoot for free. When I ask them what are they paying for, their reply was only the film!! I would have to pay for the batt, developing, etc. Have to go send and collect for them too.They said for companies benefits.:angry:
Knew what's my reply? ..............Go fly a kite.
glennyong said:shooting for charities and welfare organisations are fine. i have no problems with that. HOWEVEr. even welfare organisations do pay u a little bit to compensate you for your time and effort, and sometimes meals and transport allowances. so its still a paid job.
but my point is there are people out there providing free services and have you ever compared the market rates 3yrs ago and now ??? i have to say theres a difference.
when one photographer gives free services to a client. this is my so called visualisation of what the client thinks.
a. wha! i didnt know nowadays i can get free photographers. so why bother getting to hire someone when i can get someone to work for me free ? like that i can help company save cost and impress my boss that i am resourceful.
b. free photographers. who needs to hire when i can free who can get the job done ?
there are times when i hear this going around in schools and my work place where people discuss how cheap photography can be. but the power thing is that, they didnt know that a freelance photographer is working beside them, listening to all their craps and etc etc...
but imagine if someone post a thread in consumers section: Free Photographer for hire. Need to bulid portfolio. will work for free lunch or food/drinks.
how would you feel ???
i just dun wish the photography industry should be spoilt by some people giving out free services. it applies to weddings also. i believe even if you shoot for your friend or what during their wedding, they still give u ang pao..... summore gt dinner for you. can tarpao..
free services is really doing damage. its not significant u might think. but think about others in it for full time and they face competition. Competition is fine. but tell me how are u going to compete when they are doing it for FREE.
and for sake... its FREE!
Yezrah said:If you're paid a little, you are worth a little. And you buy little food to eat. If you are not paid, you have no worth. And you don't get to buy any food to eat. If you are not paid, and given food to eat, you still don't get to buy the next food you are going to eat. Be it charity organisation or registered company, if you don't get to buy your food, there is no life and no next free shoot for other people. Unless there is always food, or there is always a life.......there is no need to be paid.
glennyong said:and your point ?:dunno:
glennyong said:shooting for charities and welfare organisations are fine. i have no problems with that. HOWEVEr. even welfare organisations do pay u a little bit to compensate you for your time and effort, and sometimes meals and transport allowances. so its still a paid job.
but my point is there are people out there providing free services and have you ever compared the market rates 3yrs ago and now ??? i have to say theres a difference.
when one photographer gives free services to a client. this is my so called visualisation of what the client thinks.
a. wha! i didnt know nowadays i can get free photographers. so why bother getting to hire someone when i can get someone to work for me free ? like that i can help company save cost and impress my boss that i am resourceful.
b. free photographers. who needs to hire when i can free who can get the job done ?
there are times when i hear this going around in schools and my work place where people discuss how cheap photography can be. but the power thing is that, they didnt know that a freelance photographer is working beside them, listening to all their craps and etc etc...
but imagine if someone post a thread in consumers section: Free Photographer for hire. Need to bulid portfolio. will work for free lunch or food/drinks.
how would you feel ???
i just dun wish the photography industry should be spoilt by some people giving out free services. it applies to weddings also. i believe even if you shoot for your friend or what during their wedding, they still give u ang pao..... summore gt dinner for you. can tarpao..
free services is really doing damage. its not significant u might think. but think about others in it for full time and they face competition. Competition is fine. but tell me how are u going to compete when they are doing it for FREE.
and for sake... its FREE!