Thank you all Billy, Kenneth and Ryan. I think I have the answer, as far as my preference goes, with the limitation of each lens.
Kenneth, great link, thanks for sharing.
Kenneth, great link, thanks for sharing.
Thanks Kenneth. I don't do architecture photography, but I do take cityscapes, and shift will be handy.
I do enjoy Long Exposure a lot, hence the use of high dense ND is very important to me.
In fact, to me, there is no clear winner, between these 2 lenses. I really really like the idea of 17mm tilt/shift, but the front element, I just cannot get over that... I have had a 24mm lens before. It is great, but lack the dynamic impact of the ultra-wide perspective. sigh. tough call.
Do you have more of your TS-E 24mm works? in other URLs perhaps? I would like to see more. Thanks so much for your responses so far.
Stitching to get wider should be covered in http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/tilt-shift-lenses1.htm
If I'm not mistaken, the Nikon 24mm PC-E goes to max 101° fully shifted, or roughly the FOV of 18mm on FF, though doing that is generally less recommended for IQ
Hi,
I have both the 17 and 24 and do mainly landscapes with them. It's really a big difference between in terms of focal length. I tend to reach for the 24 more often as I can use NDs, ND grads but if I need the 16mm on my 16-35 then I will switch to the 17 TSE and either blend the images or shoot for HDR. There is not a noticeable difference in sharpness and I am comfortable with them both. The 17mm's protruding element is definitely a factor when shooting in rough conditions and I take extreme care when using it. Not being able to use filters is a small gripe that I have and Lee's SW150 filter kit for the Nikon 14-24 will not work on the 17 TSE due to the protrusion of the front element.
There have been times when the 24 was not wide enough and times where the 17 was too wide. It's too different to give a fair comparison but if given a choice, I would take the 24 out as I see the ability to use filters as a huge advantage over the 17. Just a note, the 24 M2 is leagues over the 24 M1 in terms of aberration control. The Mark 1 is distinctly soft when shifted to the extremes.
Hi Kenneth67C,
It's between the 2 TSE lenses. The 16-35 does not come close to either of them BUT being a zoom and having the ability to use filters, it retains its place in my bag. This applies to both the 16-35 Mark I and II. Both versions do not come close to the TSE lenses BUT if I had no comparison of any sort, I will be more than satisfied with their image quality.
ywh,
Can you enlighten me with the advantages of using TS-E lenses for landscapes.
ywh,
Can you enlighten me with the advantages of using TS-E lenses for landscapes.
I think these questions will be apply to other lens selection as well.
Based just on focal length itself.
How wide do you want?
How near or far can you stand?
Are you willing to increase your workflow(time) to stitch to overcome the wideness it can give?
Hey em, stumbled upon your thread from the front page
He stopped posting but I remember going to this flickr page while link-hopping about TS-E examples, thought it was interesting
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremyesland/
Stitching to get wider should be covered in http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/tilt-shift-lenses1.htm
If I'm not mistaken, the Nikon 24mm PC-E goes to max 101° fully shifted, or roughly the FOV of 18mm on FF, though doing that is generally less recommended for IQ
I have used the TS-E 24MkI, Sigma 12-24 and Olympus OM 18...all excellent rectilinear distortion corrected lenses. I do not have any experience with the TS-E 17 nor 24 MkII. Based purely on FL, I will choose the TS-E 17mm over the 24mm. This is as I find that 24mm while sufficient for walkaround purposes, is limiting when it comes to truly dramatic landscapes and architectures. With 24mm, you probably have to include the cars, lamp posts, road signs around a building. A wider lens allows you the flexibility to get closer or crop later.
IMHO, if you don't do architectures, then a TS-E 17 or 24 is probably overkill. I once posted some travel photos done with TS-E 24 MkI, Kit commented that the tilt effect is overused and the novelty of tilt effect will wear off after a while. I find this to be very true. If you are shifting for land/city scapes, you probably can do the same using pano, yes or no?
I use more of 17-21mm for land/city scapes on my zoom lens than 24mm. For people shots 28-35mm more than 24mm. Of course I can use a single 24mm for both but this is just the statistics with my WA zoom.
If you want to consider other things such as ability to use filters, bulbous front elements, etc. Then the 24mm will have the advantage.
Hi,
I have both the 17 and 24 and do mainly landscapes with them. It's really a big difference between in terms of focal length. I tend to reach for the 24 more often as I can use NDs, ND grads but if I need the 16mm on my 16-35 then I will switch to the 17 TSE and either blend the images or shoot for HDR. There is not a noticeable difference in sharpness and I am comfortable with them both. The 17mm's protruding element is definitely a factor when shooting in rough conditions and I take extreme care when using it. Not being able to use filters is a small gripe that I have and Lee's SW150 filter kit for the Nikon 14-24 will not work on the 17 TSE due to the protrusion of the front element.
There have been times when the 24 was not wide enough and times where the 17 was too wide. It's too different to give a fair comparison but if given a choice, I would take the 24 out as I see the ability to use filters as a huge advantage over the 17. Just a note, the 24 M2 is leagues over the 24 M1 in terms of aberration control. The Mark 1 is distinctly soft when shifted to the extremes.
ywh,
Can you enlighten me with the advantages of using TS-E lenses for landscapes.