good for the model too, she able to get the maximum shots by a lot of photographers in the shortest time, this is any girls are dreaming of.
if they want to live out a fantasy that they're famous then yes.:bsmilie:
good for the model too, she able to get the maximum shots by a lot of photographers in the shortest time, this is any girls are dreaming of.
the set up will be something like this.....machiam firing squad liao :sweatsm::bsmilie:
the set up will be something like this.....
all the black holes are camera and lenses
imagine.... in the hands of our GWCHaha! The day of shooting XMMs with Chroma Key or Green Screen has arrived!
good for the model too, she able to get the maximum shots by a lot of photographers in the shortest time, this is any girls are dreaming of.
The latest trend, which probably started about 18 months ago, is to have multiple models at an organized shoot, 3 to 4 appeared to be the norm these days.
To the uninformed, this might sound like a great deal. Same/similar pricing, now I can shoot 4 models.
Let me do some maths first.
The photographer to model ratio is 6:1. This has been the case when there was only 1 model at a shoot to the current multiple models circus.
The duration of a shoot seemed to be pegged firmly at 3 hours or 180 minutes.
When there were only 1 model, each photographer (one of six) has an equivalent of 30 minutes to work one on one with the model. The team of six, has time to innovate and create.
Fast forward to today, a 4 model organized shoot, with 4 team of six photographers during a 3 hours shoot. Under perfect timing condition, each team has 45 minutes to work with a model, each photographer has an equivalent of 7.5 minutes to work one on one with the model. There are simply no time to create, let alone innovate. Every photographer will crowd in front and fire away.
These are facts pertaining to the organized shoot environment of today.
These circus shoot, everybody loose but one. The photographers loose the most, paying and wasting hard disk space, the models loose too because horrible pictures of themselves get circulated, but the economics for the organizers appeared to be the best.
They typically have one or two experienced/good-looking models leading more inexperienced/good-looking models too... Which is why it's sometimes so hard to make a decision to join these shoots... Why pay full price to shoot only 1 model out of 3 or 4 that I really want to shoot?
And I wonder why the experienced models stand for it.... You split the fees equally with someone who is not as good as you (assuming it's equal split, of course).
If the photographers were complaining these shoots would not be popular. It's market forces. but maybe you can feedback to the organiser and he will try going back to the single model method.
Your last sentence is the reason for the trend - in 1 hour, if I can earn $A x 1 or $A x 3, obviously they choose $A x 3.
Of course the usual compromises will be made to achieve $A x 3.
I fully understand economics will drive everything. Lowest common denominator. Maximize profit, quality be damned.
That said, it's up to those that are serious and passionate about the hobby to maintain some form of standard.
Mystudio has a great point. These days, the model shoot is like shooting at a car show or IT show or whatever. The different is, these shows are much less expensive than $100, or $80, or $65, or even $45.
it won't be surprise if one day you will have more cameramen than the visitors in the exhibition hall.That's why nowadays I see more cameramen than models in the exhibition hall :bsmilie:
it won't be surprise if one day you will have more cameramen than the visitors in the exhibition hall.
kind of the wrong place to be sounding that clarion don'tcha think?:sweatsm:
Why? This is the place I am hanging out. If not here, where? If not here, then I might as well pack up and hit the road.
because you have an unreceptive audience so its mainly the small minority wasting their breath yelling into the darkness.
If you're the brave type something may come out from the darkness answering your yell:
Now I am pissed.
If the small minority does not keep the flame lit, guard it from wind and water, spread it to lit up the horizon, it will die, and the art will die.
Is that what you are proposing?
I have nothing against the organizers making money. That is fine. Making money is everyone's right.
However, I have a major problem with how people approach shooting model these days. It is definitely not photography, definitely not creativity, and the end result is absolutely horrific.