Shoot not niice without flash


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Eventhough I'm using a large aperture lens to shoot a model in indoor and outdoor, the shoots looked either has digital noise(symptom of underexpose), color lack of vibrance/saturation/contrast and looks like the shoots need to have a reflector/flash.

I tried to meter the face just to make sure at least the face should be properly expose but it still show the same problem. Spot metering doesn't help. The problem would be solved if flash is used.

A lightmeter was used to double check whether there's any user error in metering.

So any idea?
 

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Tested with indoor tungsten light i.e like the hotel/restaurant lighting, typical car show lighting.

Thus most of the above lighting should lid almost the whole subject that part of it. It's not like a candle light.

For outdoor the sun is the main light. Metering the model face or spot meter the face, doesn't really get a properly expose face( it's different from using a wrong technique in metering and end up the face underexpose).
 

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1. Try posting a sample so we can see what on earth you're talking about.
2. Make sure to include all the EXIF
 

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What Mr Ortega suggested is about Quality of light, do not get mixed up with Quantity of light.

you said you use spot metering taking meter reading off your subject face, do you shoot in manual mode or do you lock the exposure with A or P mode in the first place?
 

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Have tried both. If it's AV then I've tried from 0 to +1. for +1 the shoots looks overexpose but the tonal gradation is not the same as using flash( looked highly contrast and smooth color gradation)

Sorry to be ignorant but can you give me an example what's quality of light?
 

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Have tried both. If it's AV then I've tried from 0 to +1. for +1 the shoots looks overexpose but the tonal gradation is not the same as using flash( looked highly contrast and smooth color gradation)

Sorry to be ignorant but can you give me an example what's quality of light?
simple put it, quality light create depth, create shape, create texture, create mood.
 

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did you check your camera settings? portraits without flash are as good as without flash, if there's sufficient natural light. just depends on how it is shot
 

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I think the main problem is probably the scene is too high contrast, hence when you used a little fill flash, it evens out the lighting and lessen the contrast, if that is what you want to acehive... The scene that you were trying to take would probably have exceeded the camera's dynamic range.
 

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picture speaks a thousand words. whats the shutter speed, aperture, WB used?
 

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portraits without flash are as good as without flash, if there's sufficient natural light. just depends on how it is shot

Can you teach us how you did that :dunno:
 

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Can you teach us how you did that :dunno:
Err. Easy, right? I mean, most of the shots you see in the portraits section are taken without flash.




Now, some images simply would not even work if there was any flash used at all!

 

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Err. Easy, right? I mean, most of the shots you see in the portraits section are taken without flash.




Now, some images simply would not even work if there was any flash used at all!



EPIC FAIL!

One peekchure so blur! Onli eyes can see sarp sarp!

The other peekchure so olange!

And you're missing the CLASSIC 'Deer-in-the-headlights' klear klear look!

:sweat: :bsmilie:
 

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EPIC FAIL!

One peekchure so blur! Onli eyes can see sarp sarp!

The other peekchure so olange!

And you're missing the CLASSIC 'Deer-in-the-headlights' klear klear look!

:sweat: :bsmilie:

LOL

Eh, auntie, buy me kopi lah. :p
 

Dream Merchant

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LOL

Eh, auntie, buy me kopi lah. :p
I buy you kopi also your low-light shots like those above shure fail wan lah! At the very least, you NEED the deer-in-the-headlights look, if notheing else. :sweat:

Hmm, mabbie a few dozen egg prata facials might do the trick! :bsmilie:

Would love to catch up for kopi. PM me lar ... don't OT here. :bsmilie:
 

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