Public Area Photography
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Honestly, I don't see what's wrong with the parent's request to delete the photo if the daughter is captured inside the shot.
You could always delete the shot, wait until the father and child leaves the scene, then reshoot again. Not willing to do so may, of course, raise suspicion on why not. I hope you see my point.
Regardless of our intent, whether benign or malicious, if the subject objects to him or her being in our shot that was already taken and only has our word to take for it, then they have the right of it. Afterall, they only have our word to go on.
My point isn't targetted at the TS but is an observation in general.
You could always delete the shot, wait until the father and child leaves the scene, then reshoot again. Not willing to do so may, of course, raise suspicion on why not. I hope you see my point.
Regardless of our intent, whether benign or malicious, if the subject objects to him or her being in our shot that was already taken and only has our word to take for it, then they have the right of it. Afterall, they only have our word to go on.
My point isn't targetted at the TS but is an observation in general.
Well, seeing that the father and daughter pair is the subject in the photo, I don't see how anyone can reshoot the scene when they leave.
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I think you can make a fortune selling mature Chinese women stock photos by it. :bsmilie:
Ahh yes, I misread TS post. Then therein lies the problem I guess. If TS intention was to expressly capture the father and daughter in his scene and they disagree, why can't they? They only have TS's word that his intent was not malicious - how to prove? Not a dig at TS's integrity, just in general.
Sivakis said:
To me, i think if its a public place, then they have no right to ask PG to delete the image. You appeae in public, be prepared to be under the public eye.
If still uncomfortable and want to be in public, wear the burqa. Settle the issue of the 'pedo/male gazing eye'.
Nowadays parents very protective of their children. That's why I only shoot photos of my own kids. And no, please don't take my kids Hor!
Was at Genting recently, and with my 3 yr old on the indoor carousel. One official photographer was going around taking photos of the kids and parents so that parents can order their prints from the official counter. One couple standing outside kept reminding their daughter who's about 7-8 yrs old not to have her photos taken. They even told the photographer not to take any photos...
Was at Genting recently, and with my 3 yr old on the indoor carousel. One official photographer was going around taking photos of the kids and parents so that parents can order their prints from the official counter. One couple standing outside kept reminding their daughter who's about 7-8 yrs old not to have her photos taken. They even told the photographer not to take any photos...
Sispecho said:
Just delete and take another shot with another more willing subject. What's the big deal? Why kick a fuss if the father is clearly upset. Granted that he doesn't have to be rude about it.
catchlights said:
My mom teaches line dancing at a number of CCs and her student aunties are all well to do. They certainly welcome volunteer photographers to cover their lessons and parties. Let me know if you are interested...
actually, if he asks you, you should just delete it. don't kick up a fuss. even if it's blur, if he requests, you should accede to it.
just because it's a public place, it doesn't give you the right to deny someone's request, especially if he's uncomfortable with you taking that shot (even if it was blurry).
simple courtesy and manners. anyways, it's TS' word on how the guy behaved, and how TS behaved. how do we know it's true to the T or not. there's no way to prove all that unless that man comes in here to verify it.
just to add on. if your friend asks you to delete a photo that perhaps they don't like and you do that, what more a stranger whom you don't know on the streets.
it's the kind of "It's My RIGHT of WAY" attitude that's destroying humanity. it breeds selfishness and ignorance of others.
just because it's a public place, it doesn't give you the right to deny someone's request, especially if he's uncomfortable with you taking that shot (even if it was blurry).
simple courtesy and manners. anyways, it's TS' word on how the guy behaved, and how TS behaved. how do we know it's true to the T or not. there's no way to prove all that unless that man comes in here to verify it.
just to add on. if your friend asks you to delete a photo that perhaps they don't like and you do that, what more a stranger whom you don't know on the streets.
it's the kind of "It's My RIGHT of WAY" attitude that's destroying humanity. it breeds selfishness and ignorance of others.
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blive said:
I kena a few times also, but i simply hate it if they come with an attitude. I will almost always obligeif ask.nicely. The more u piss me off the harder i stand my ground.
There was this guy who was going out with a syt and he tot i was like a PI or some thg like that. I stood.my ground because he was so rude.
Even when i shooting a couple i dont ask everyone to Siam like I own the place. I ask nicely explaining my timing is tight and bla bla and everyone complied willingly some more... I thk Singaporeans are a considerate lot generally.
same goes for me here. i didn't start shooting yesterday lah, and most of the time i'm nice.:bsmilie:
as i said, if they asked nicely, instead of demanding to see my camera's photos, IC and stuff, i will pretty much just delete the shot.
i'm guessing that these people never met people who can be as nasty and take things to the extreme with them, that's why they think they can get away with it
kinda like the same for road bullies really.
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Just like to add to this.... TS, just because its a public place and you have every right to take photo... its also means in a public place, I have every RIGHT... not wanting myself in your photo...
diver-hloc said:Just like to add to this.... TS, just because its a public place and you have every right to take photo... its also means in a public place, I have every RIGHT... not wanting myself in your photo...
But will you have the right NOT to be seen (and consumed) by anyone in public? Its public space and not where you can boss other people to do what you tell them to do. If you do not want to be identifiable in a picture, go protect yourself, cover up or wear a Burqa. No one can force you not to wear it.
I will be comfortable to be photographed anywhere in public as thats where and when i will have to present myself for the public eye. Nobody goes to the park naked.
If the PG do appear suspicious, with suspicious intentions of either commercialising the images or some.other ill intent, just call the cops. Get their details so.if you want to sue them for usin the images without a proper release, you know where to start.
If been told off, tell them that they inside your photo cause who ask them to walk at that area at that time? Then ask them to pay you back for the frame capture else you post online, haha! If can't be in the photo, stay in home, dont come out cause human got eyes, can capture your image too, haha!
That's why I shoot street in manual focus, whenever I tinker with my focus ring, I tend to look more inconspicuous like an overzealous cam enthusiast than a pedophile. Or just stick to shooting pets.
For those who feel that, as photogs, we should be allowed to take photos in public at will, it's another testament to this "Me Me Me, I I I" attitude that I'm starting to see in lots of people all over the world.
You're a stranger to the unwitting subject in your photo. How would they know your intent of taking a photo with them in your shot? You can claim to be completely harmless and the photo would not be mis-used, but who are you to them? Just a stranger, still.
Just because your intents are harmless (and I really do hope they are harmless) doesn't mean that everyone will trust you - read again.. stranger.
Honestly, owning a camera doesn't give us the right to shoot anywhere in public that we like without thinking of others. They don't like it, we don't shoot it. Simple.
You're a stranger to the unwitting subject in your photo. How would they know your intent of taking a photo with them in your shot? You can claim to be completely harmless and the photo would not be mis-used, but who are you to them? Just a stranger, still.
Just because your intents are harmless (and I really do hope they are harmless) doesn't mean that everyone will trust you - read again.. stranger.
Honestly, owning a camera doesn't give us the right to shoot anywhere in public that we like without thinking of others. They don't like it, we don't shoot it. Simple.
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