Here are the reviews...
http://www.photoxels.com/panasonic-l1-review.html
http://www.fotoaparat.cz/article/10319/1
http://www.photoxels.com/panasonic-l1-review.html
http://www.fotoaparat.cz/article/10319/1
ExplorerZ said:iso pretty good, but still a little away compared to n and c camp. :thumbsup:
but that might also be due to different lighting we see from other test on other camera
guess for the most "accurate" review we will have to wait for DP. :think:
lightning69 said:Noise is always the big concern for when it come to image quality. But one must not forget that the L1 comes with a great Leica lens with image stabilisation. The image stabilisation is effectively giving us 3 more f-stops equivalent to play with which is really useful. Instead of shooting with ISO1600, I believe shooting a ISO800 with image stabilisation can give me equal or better results then if i would with ISO1600 without stabilisation.
Thefore IMHO, i think the L1 is the best prosumer DLSR out there in the market.
lightning69 said:Noise is always the big concern for when it come to image quality. But one must not forget that the L1 comes with a great Leica lens with image stabilisation. The image stabilisation is effectively giving us 3 more f-stops equivalent to play with which is really useful. Instead of shooting with ISO1600, I believe shooting a ISO800 with image stabilisation can give me equal or better results then if i would with ISO1600 without stabilisation.
Thefore IMHO, i think the L1 is the best prosumer DLSR out there in the market.
metallilan said:No disrespect, but remember, IS based DSLR lens costs big time. Its not as if they were producing it for fixed focal ranged camera's.
I'm beginning to wonder if any new beginner would buy the L1 aside from the old-timer's...
And remember ISO aint everything in a DSLR, not totally. Functionality, Flexibility and Speed for the body alone determines which is better for the price paid, minus the lens of course.
ExplorerZ said:agreed, but two questions... can IS freeze a moving object? :dunno:
and does all lens give you IS on that body? < ans no its only the kit lens, rmb you are going to pay 3k for that kit (including the kit lens)
anyway if you said L1 is best prosumer DSLR out there, how about Sony Alpha? its even better with built-in camera IS
personally i would rather take a stop higher ISO control rather than 2-3 stop of IS. I find it very very useful.
no doubt the lens is gooood and camera design is unique but its up to the buyer to decide where its worth the cash (roughly 3k), as for me i rather get a canon 350d (cos of good noise control) + another "L" lens maybe.
lightning69 said:You're right, IS lens cost a bomb, but pana has include it with all the digicams and they cost so much less. And you right that ISO insn't everything, and overall fuctionality is...that is why the L1 is simply one of the best you can get in terms of functionality and ease of use of a traditional SLR cam. Many camera company such as c & n are cutting corners by removing those analog dial and using menu to navigate, but pana is finally bringing back those good old analog controls.
All i am hoping is pana to drop the price and i will get myself a good old fashion L1.
Have you ever tried taking shots down at the ground level with your DSLR? If you have, is it possible to compose the shot thru the viewfinder without having to prostrate yourself on the ground? And what happens if the ground is filthy or wet? Would you give up taking that shot even though you knew it would turn out to be a great shot. :dunno:metallilan said:Features wise i think Pana is alright, manual controls is a plus point.
However, i'm disappointed that they included the 'live view technology'. IMO the technology is not much of a plus point, maybe for consumers from the PnS realm who wants to try DSLR, but if you look at the market of things, the budget DSLR is dominant of C & N who's non-'live view' dslr are a hit for those who wants WYSIWYG image capturing, don't need to ask about the prosumer series line(like the D200) and the high end lind(D2X, 1DMKII).
IMO, panasonic's next DSLR should be an old school typed WYSIWYG DSLR, i think the whole 'live view' thing is spoiling what a true SLR camera is like, aside from the new technology like IS and anti-dust, and the manual control of course.
I guess panasonic wants people to spend more on 'live view' then spend a few hundred bucks on an angle finder..
tomcat said:Have you ever tried taking shots down at the ground level with your DSLR? If you have, is it possible to compose the shot thru the viewfinder without having to prostrate yourself on the ground? And what happens if the ground is filthy or wet? Would you give up taking that shot even though you knew it would turn out to be a great shot. :dunno:
Well, you don't have to if you have a Live View DSLR.
lightning69 said:You're right, IS lens cost a bomb, but pana has include it with all the digicams and they cost so much less. And you right that ISO insn't everything, and overall fuctionality is...that is why the L1 is simply one of the best you can get in terms of functionality and ease of use of a traditional SLR cam. Many camera company such as c & n are cutting corners by removing those analog dial and using menu to navigate, but pana is finally bringing back those good old analog controls.
All i am hoping is pana to drop the price and i will get myself a good old fashion L1.
if ISO cannot freeze action much den what doesn't people who shoot in world cup use? flash? :dunno:No...IM cannot freeze a moving object, so does ISO!!!
ExplorerZ said:just to add on, i rather they price it at slightly above 2k with everything the same rather than a lens with IS. at least this give consumer a choice to decide if they want to spent $ on the more expensive great Leica IS lens. if they want they can get it seperately.
If you don't like the Live View of the E-330, you probably won't like the Live View of the L1 especially since the display is not even articulated like that of the E-330. :think:weekh said:Any idea when will it be available locally?
tomcat said:If you don't like the Live View of the E-330, you probably won't like the Live View of the L1 especially since the display is not even articulated like that of the E-330. :think: