Nikon or Canon: who takes bigger market share?
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I buy Canon. I love Canon... of course it's Canon who has bigger share ;p
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Well, I heard from my brother's girlfriend's sister's friend who was told by her friend's niece's neighbour's uncle's tealady whose son's friend works in Nikon Japan that market survey show that Nikon has a larger market share. So there!
I bought Nikon. I use Nikon. I don't necessarily love Nikon. But of course Nikon has a bigger market share.
:devil: ;p :devil:
I bought Nikon. I use Nikon. I don't necessarily love Nikon. But of course Nikon has a bigger market share.
:devil: ;p :devil:
Nikon's results:
http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/portfolio/ir/2002/finance/02_f_d_e.pdf
Canon's results:
http://www.canon.com/finance/results/2002/rslt2002q2e.html
Canon beats Nikon!
(But you have to remember that Canon also makes lots of other things besides cameras....)
http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/portfolio/ir/2002/finance/02_f_d_e.pdf
Canon's results:
http://www.canon.com/finance/results/2002/rslt2002q2e.html
Canon beats Nikon!
(But you have to remember that Canon also makes lots of other things besides cameras....)
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It is interesting to note that many independent sources suggest that the two big players (Canon and Nikon) in the prosumer and professional market are not in fact the leaders in the overall camera market. Apparently the dollars spent by legions of "ordinary" consumers who buy point and shoot cameras far outweigh even the thousands spent by photography enthusiasts and professionals.
I haven't seen any recent data, but I vaguely remember that for FY 2001, Sony was by far the runaway leader in camera market share (due to its very popular digital cameras), with Kodak and Olympus trailing somewhere behind and then Canon, Nikon, Fujifilm and HP(!!) somewhere in the third tier. Pretty hard to believe for most of us "hard-core photographers", but I think these findings were quite consistent, even across different independent market analysis sources. (Can't find any relevant web links right now, but I saw these in some magazine many months ago.)
Of course, as has already been pointed out in this thread, what does it matter in the end (at least from the consumer's point of view)? As long as everyone has the tools they need to achieve the results they want, everyone's happy.
I haven't seen any recent data, but I vaguely remember that for FY 2001, Sony was by far the runaway leader in camera market share (due to its very popular digital cameras), with Kodak and Olympus trailing somewhere behind and then Canon, Nikon, Fujifilm and HP(!!) somewhere in the third tier. Pretty hard to believe for most of us "hard-core photographers", but I think these findings were quite consistent, even across different independent market analysis sources. (Can't find any relevant web links right now, but I saw these in some magazine many months ago.)
Of course, as has already been pointed out in this thread, what does it matter in the end (at least from the consumer's point of view)? As long as everyone has the tools they need to achieve the results they want, everyone's happy.
Seen in that way, Nikon's results sure are disappointing ... but ... if you take into consideration that a large portion of Nikon's R&D and income is in Precision Equipment (roughly half of income and more than 70% of CapEx and R&D expenditure), and the fact that the markets that Nikon sells to with respect to Precision Eqpmt (the semiconductor market) has been in the doldrums for the last couple of years, the results are understandable.
Not defending Nikon but just giving perspective.
I did some research before, and according to the latest reports I could find (2001), the ranking for digicam market share is
1. Sony
2. Olympus
3. Fuji
4. Canon
5. Kodak
6. Nikon
followed by the other brands like HP, Minolta, etc
1. Sony
2. Olympus
3. Fuji
4. Canon
5. Kodak
6. Nikon
followed by the other brands like HP, Minolta, etc
Wednesday, September 18, 2002
Minolta shares jump on sunny profit outlook
REUTERS
Shares in Japanese camera and copier maker Minolta soared over 10
per cent on Wednesday after a report that it would post a first-half group
operating profit of 12 billion yen (HK$756.4 million).
Minolta, which had forecast an operating profit of eight billion yen for
the half-year to September, later said that its operating profit outlook
was largely in line with the report in the Nihon Keizai Shimbun.
The newspaper said Minolta, which suffered a 2.9 billion yen group
operating loss in the same period last year, would post the
better-than-expected results thanks to strong sales of office information
equipment, cameras and other optical products, plus the effect of a
payroll cut.
"We can't confirm the exact figure, but the newspaper arrived at its
operating profit calculations after meeting with us and discussing sales
trends and other factors," Minolta spokesman Yutaka Yoshikai said.
"It is largely in line with our current outlook."
Shares in Minolta were up 10.56 per cent at 398 yen at 0200 GMT, whereas
the benchmark Nikkei average was down 2.47 per cent.
The company said its group sales outlook for the first half of the year to
March was also in line with the newspaper's calculation of a seven per
cent year-on-year rise to 260 billion yen.
The Nihon Keizai also said Minolta's group net profit for the first half
was likely to beat the company's forecast of two billion yen, but Minolta
said that figure was based solely on the newspaper's calculations.
For the full year, Minolta is likely to post a 400 per cent rise in group
operating profit to more than 20 billion yen, on a four per cent rise in
sales to 530 billion yen, the paper said.
Minolta shares jump on sunny profit outlook
REUTERS
Shares in Japanese camera and copier maker Minolta soared over 10
per cent on Wednesday after a report that it would post a first-half group
operating profit of 12 billion yen (HK$756.4 million).
Minolta, which had forecast an operating profit of eight billion yen for
the half-year to September, later said that its operating profit outlook
was largely in line with the report in the Nihon Keizai Shimbun.
The newspaper said Minolta, which suffered a 2.9 billion yen group
operating loss in the same period last year, would post the
better-than-expected results thanks to strong sales of office information
equipment, cameras and other optical products, plus the effect of a
payroll cut.
"We can't confirm the exact figure, but the newspaper arrived at its
operating profit calculations after meeting with us and discussing sales
trends and other factors," Minolta spokesman Yutaka Yoshikai said.
"It is largely in line with our current outlook."
Shares in Minolta were up 10.56 per cent at 398 yen at 0200 GMT, whereas
the benchmark Nikkei average was down 2.47 per cent.
The company said its group sales outlook for the first half of the year to
March was also in line with the newspaper's calculation of a seven per
cent year-on-year rise to 260 billion yen.
The Nihon Keizai also said Minolta's group net profit for the first half
was likely to beat the company's forecast of two billion yen, but Minolta
said that figure was based solely on the newspaper's calculations.
For the full year, Minolta is likely to post a 400 per cent rise in group
operating profit to more than 20 billion yen, on a four per cent rise in
sales to 530 billion yen, the paper said.
Y bother????I will only be concerned if either one goes bust. Then complacency will set in and advances in either system may stagnate.
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