I am in the market for a long Telephoto lens and thinking either fixed 300 or 400 f2.8 or get something a wee bit more versatile with the 200/400mm f4............what do you guys think?
Sir I have a D3s but will upgrade to a D4X if it ever materializes. Could you please elaborate a little on the two lenses that you have...............my gut says 300 f2.8 but my heart says 200/400It would also depend on the body.
If you are using at least D3S, D4; go for 200-400 for the zoom versatility.
I use both AFS VR 300 and AFS VR 200-400, both have their own merits.
But if you have limited space and carrying capacity, the zoom would be the best option.
I am in the market for a long Telephoto lens and thinking either fixed 300 or 400 f2.8 or get something a wee bit more versatile with the 200/400mm f4............what do you guys think?
If you want reach, best quality images then you'll have to compensate versatility through the use to Teleconverters on the versatility part.
Birds and small mammals need at least 600mm and above unless you are in a hide/tent.
That would point you in the direction of either the 400mm f/2.8 or 600mm f/4 that both cost in the range of 11.5K SGD onwards.
Some folks use a 500mm f/4 + TC 14E II and this offers better weight and compactness ratio to reach 700mm f/5.6 that can shot wide open at f/5.6
My choice went to a 400mm f/2.8 + the full range of TC 1.4/1.7/2.0 as my plans were to bring this setup to photograph bears, eagles in the northern part of the world where at times, hides are available and the subjects actually come close enough to the hide that anything longer that a 400mm would result in "Passport" shots which is not what I want.
In Malaysia or Singapore, IMHO, anything short of 600mm would be pretty challenging without startling the subject. Hence, the best lens of choice for photographing wild life in Malaysia or Singapore would be a 600mm f/4 mounted onto a Wimberley WH-200 gimbal
The photo below of a resident Golden eagle was shot in a Arctic national park with the 300mm f/2.8 VR II from a camouflaged location
The next photo is from Singapore, Bidadari, with a 400mm f/2.8 VR II + TC 20E III
Sir I have a D3s but will upgrade to a D4X if it ever materializes. Could you please elaborate a little on the two lenses that you have...............my gut says 300 f2.8 but my heart says 200/400
Really good advise, I learned something today! :thumbsup:
As long as it has 36 plus mega pixels I don't care what they call itD4S is next
Thank you SirIf you want reach, best quality images then you'll have to compensate versatility through the use to Teleconverters on the versatility part.
Birds and small mammals need at least 600mm and above unless you are in a hide/tent.
That would point you in the direction of either the 400mm f/2.8 or 600mm f/4 that both cost in the range of 11.5K SGD onwards.
Some folks use a 500mm f/4 + TC 14E II and this offers better weight and compactness ratio to reach 700mm f/5.6 that can shot wide open at f/5.6
My choice went to a 400mm f/2.8 + the full range of TC 1.4/1.7/2.0 as my plans were to bring this setup to photograph bears, eagles in the northern part of the world where at times, hides are available and the subjects actually come close enough to the hide that anything longer that a 400mm would result in "Passport" shots which is not what I want.
In Malaysia or Singapore, IMHO, anything short of 600mm would be pretty challenging without startling the subject. Hence, the best lens of choice for photographing wild life in Malaysia or Singapore would be a 600mm f/4 mounted onto a Wimberley WH-200 gimbal
The photo below of a resident Golden eagle was shot in a Arctic national park with the 300mm f/2.8 VR II from a camouflaged location
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ambient_pixels/9576996758/sizes/c/in/photostream/
The next photo is from Singapore, Bidadari, with a 400mm f/2.8 VR II + TC 20E III
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ambient_pixels/10491972205/
Thank you Sir
I am in the market for a long Telephoto lens and thinking either fixed 300 or 400 f2.8 or get something a wee bit more versatile with the 200/400mm f4............what do you guys think?
Have you tried to carry one and move around for few hours ? before you want a telephoto lens... specially in Malaysia where the paths are "wild"
Never but you only live once..........heading to the Nikon store today to try all these lenses out........just need the D4X and I will be a happy manHave you tried to carry one and move around for few hours ? before you want a telephoto lens... specially in Malaysia where the paths are "wild"
OK went to the Nikon store and got my hands on the lenses, I am ready to buy the 500 f4 but forgot to ask if I can use my 2 x T111 with it.........can I use a 2 x or should I opt for a 1.4 or 1.7 or none at all
D4X/sIf your camera supports AF to F8, then the 2xTC is no problem.
OK went to the Nikon store and got my hands on the lenses, I am ready to buy the 500 f4 but forgot to ask if I can use my 2 x T111 with it.........can I use a 2 x or should I opt for a 1.4 or 1.7 or none at all
Sir,With regards to using of TC
Your D3s can only support AF till f/5.6 so using a X2 TC on the 500mm f/4 is not going to get you AF
For D4 / or D800/E that supports AF up till f/8 at selected points, it will work but it is going to be pretty challenging.
For X2 or X1.7 TC, one has to stop down at least near to 1 stop to regain sharpness. This is so even with the TC-20E III. Hence you are staring at shooting at f/10 or f/11 when attaching a X1.7 or X2 TC to the 500mm f/4.
Another point to note is that the 500mm f/4 is not known to work well with X2 TC with regards to sharpness.
Field application wise, forest birds are often in shade or are slight back lit which means one has already to shoot at rather slow shutter speeds even at f/6.3 under native ISO situations. While it can be done, one very much rues their luck and under more challenging light conditions, one can only pray that the subject don't move for up to 1 sec.
As such, most folks rather use it with a X1.4 to reach 700mm and crop. Using a D7100 + 500mm f/4 VR + TC-14E II can yield very good results with the correct techniques.
An example:
This Black Back KF was shot at 1/30sec in native ISO on the D4 coupled to a TC-20E III and 400mm f/2.8 at f/8. The light was very dim.
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