Nikkor 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5G ED and 800mm f/5.6E FL ED VR lenses officially announced

[Kit]

I was referring to the time of the 6MP era, where we only have the cheaper APS-C cameras, the advanced APS-H sensors and the pioneer FF models. The 17-40mm is only useful (and probably solely due to its value then outright quality) at the higher end models of yester-year. The 17-40mm had no place in the crop sensor cameras.

In today's world of incredibly powerful full frame sensors, it is my contention that the 17-40mm f/4 is redundant, kept alive by budget FF photographers, which I think is an odd category.

Quite frankly, I don't think budget FF users are odd. If anything, they will be increasing in numbers given the introduction of D600 and 6D.

 

[Blur Shadow]

Quite frankly, I don't think budget FF users are odd. If anything, they will be increasing in numbers given the introduction of D600 and 6D.

Hmm... I cannot deny that the Nikon D600 and the Canon 6D has unlocked a new market segment. And I certainly get your point, because these folks are appearing by the hundreds daily. Still, I cannot help but wonder why one would go for a good quality full frame camera only to cripple oneself with a mediocre lens? I can only imagine that they are either misinformed or limited by financial considerations, by which they may be happier with a DX or APS-C solution.

Anyway, I am looking forward to the reviews for this latest Nikon variable aperture lens!

 

[ageha]

Hmm... I cannot deny that the Nikon D600 and the Canon 6D has unlocked a new market segment. And I certainly get your point, because these folks are appearing by the hundreds daily. Still, I cannot help but wonder why one would go for a good quality full frame camera only to cripple oneself with a mediocre lens? I can only imagine that they are either misinformed or limited by financial considerations, by which they may be happier with a DX or APS-C solution.

Anyway, I am looking forward to the reviews for this latest Nikon variable aperture lens!

What has the format to do with the quality of the equipment? Nothing. It's time to get back to where we were more than 15 years ago.

 

[Kit]

Hmm... I cannot deny that the Nikon D600 and the Canon 6D has unlocked a new market segment. And I certainly get your point, because these folks are appearing by the hundreds daily. Still, I cannot help but wonder why one would go for a good quality full frame camera only to cripple oneself with a mediocre lens? I can only imagine that they are either misinformed or limited by financial considerations, by which they may be happier with a DX or APS-C solution.

Anyway, I am looking forward to the reviews for this latest Nikon variable aperture lens!

That's because you have the impression that the 17-40mm is not good. I don't know what you might have experienced or heard but this lens is a great bang for the buck considering the performance of the earlier wide angle zooms. Like I mentioned before, I've got no problem using it with a 5D MKII, even for commercial work.

 

[Blur Shadow]

That's because you have the impression that the 17-40mm is not good. I don't know what you might have experienced or heard but this lens is a great bang for the buck considering the performance of the earlier wide angle zooms. Like I mentioned before, I've got no problem using it with a 5D MKII, even for commercial work.

Heh. Perhaps it is just me then!

 

[Dfive]

DEF BE BUYING TWO OF THE 800MM !!

hahaha......

But to be honest..... this IS now the sharpest NIKKOR ever looking at the MTF !! Wow !!

 

[ageha]

Any early full res samples from the 18-35 out there?
Just a few low res ones:
http://www.nikon-image.com/products/lens/af/fx/zoom/af-s_18-35mmf35-45g_ed.htm

 

[avsquare]

Higher resolution also demand better camera handling techniques. Yes, people are complaining about ultra high resolution cameras. On the other hand, I still see people insisting that they can handhold 1/8th sec shots with the latest and greatest VR/IS. There you go.

Hahaha! Yes. I am always so amazed by such people and their purported skills.

Hmm I don't use VR/IS extensively to comment, but I do note that the latest VR III lens - the 70-200mm f/4's acclaimed 5-stop VR is as good as it claims.

I did manage to get sharp photos at 1/6s at 200mm over 50% of the time, but that's on a D600. I don't think it will 1/6s on 200mm on a D800 will make it though. :bsmilie:

Edit: posted a sample of 1/6s, 200mm at the 70-200mm f/4 VR III thread some time ago

 

[Kit]

Hmm I don't use VR/IS extensively to comment, but I do note that the latest VR III lens - the 70-200mm f/4's acclaimed 5-stop VR is as good as it claims.

I did manage to get sharp photos at 1/6s at 200mm over 50% of the time, but that's on a D600. I don't think it will 1/6s on 200mm on a D800 will make it though. :bsmilie:

Edit: posted a sample of 1/6s, 200mm at the 70-200mm f/4 VR III thread some time ago

That's fine if you have a realistic expectation of the results.

 

[boxerfan]

Any idea what the SG pricing is for the 18-35?
Silent on Nikon SG website.

 

[An drew]

Comparison with the Canon.

Price USD 17,899 Performance Focal Length 800 mm Comparable DX Focal Length: 1200 mm Aperture Maximum: f/5.6 Minimum: f/32 Camera Mount Type Nikon F Format Compatibility Nikon FX/35mm Film Nikon DX Angle of View 3° 10" DX Picture Angle: 2° Minimum Focus Distance 19.36' (5.9 m) Maximum Reproduction Ratio 1:6.6 Groups/Elements 13/20 Diaphragm Blades 9 Features Image Stabilization Yes Autofocus Yes Tripod Collar Yes Physical Filter Thread 52 mm Dimensions (DxL) Approx. 6.30 x 18.15" (160 x 461 mm) Weight 10.12 lb (4.59 kg)

Price USD13,249 Performance Focal Length 800 mm Aperture Maximum: f/5.6 Minimum: f/32 Camera Mount Type Canon EF Format Compatibility 35mm Film / Full-Frame Digital Sensor Canon (APS-C) Angle of View 3.5° Minimum Focus Distance 19.7' (6 m) Magnification 0.14x Maximum Reproduction Ratio 1:7.14 Groups/Elements 14/18 Diaphragm Blades 8 Features Image Stabilization Yes Autofocus Yes Tripod Collar Yes Physical Filter Thread 52 mm Dimensions (DxL) Approx. 6.4 x 18.1" (16.26 x 45.97 cm) Weight 9.9 lb (4.49 kg)

 

[ageha]

Any idea what the SG pricing is for the 18-35?
Silent on Nikon SG website.

Nothing new here. Nikon SG publishes prices one hour after it hits the local stores usually. They are pretty fast here.

 

[ageha]

Comparison with the Canon.

Price USD 17,899 Performance Focal Length 800 mm Comparable DX Focal Length: 1200 mm Aperture Maximum: f/5.6 Minimum: f/32 Camera Mount Type Nikon F Format Compatibility Nikon FX/35mm Film Nikon DX Angle of View 3° 10" DX Picture Angle: 2° Minimum Focus Distance 19.36' (5.9 m) Maximum Reproduction Ratio 1:6.6 Groups/Elements 13/20 Diaphragm Blades 9 Features Image Stabilization Yes Autofocus Yes Tripod Collar Yes Physical Filter Thread 52 mm Dimensions (DxL) Approx. 6.30 x 18.15" (160 x 461 mm) Weight 10.12 lb (4.59 kg)

Price USD13,249 Performance Focal Length 800 mm Aperture Maximum: f/5.6 Minimum: f/32 Camera Mount Type Canon EF Format Compatibility 35mm Film / Full-Frame Digital Sensor Canon (APS-C) Angle of View 3.5° Minimum Focus Distance 19.7' (6 m) Magnification 0.14x Maximum Reproduction Ratio 1:7.14 Groups/Elements 14/18 Diaphragm Blades 8 Features Image Stabilization Yes Autofocus Yes Tripod Collar Yes Physical Filter Thread 52 mm Dimensions (DxL) Approx. 6.4 x 18.1" (16.26 x 45.97 cm) Weight 9.9 lb (4.49 kg)

Quite a price difference, it has be a lot better.

 

[niccon2]

DEF BE BUYING TWO OF THE 800MM !!

hahaha......

But to be honest..... this IS now the sharpest NIKKOR ever looking at the MTF !! Wow !!

agreed, it is amazing

 

[niccon2]

Quite a price difference, it has be a lot better.

from chart on the sharpness, yes.

 

[ageha]

from chart on the sharpness, yes.

Don't forget it's a calculated chart, not a measured one.

 

[Dfive]

from chart on the sharpness, yes.

Don't forget it's a calculated chart, not a measured one.

I "measure" it at 500-600mm more than the previous king/s of sharpness the 200mm f/2 and 300 f/2.8

If MTF correct this may be the sharpest thing around from any brand..... ??

 

[An drew]

Don't forget it's a calculated chart, not a measured one.

I am not sure but I remembering reading somewhere that Nikon provides measured MTF charts while Canon's are calculated or computed MTF charts. I could be wrong.

 

[ageha]

I am not sure but I remembering reading somewhere that Nikon provides measured MTF charts while Canon's are calculated or computed MTF charts. I could be wrong.

I think Carl Zeiss is pretty much the only lens maker who publishes measured MTF charts.

 

[An drew]

I think Carl Zeiss is pretty much the only lens maker who publishes measured MTF charts.

You are probably right.