Newbie 2nd attempt (3 shots)


Status
Not open for further replies.

Wolfgang

Senior Member
Apr 29, 2002
5,688
0
0
39
Riddle Realms
wolfgang.clubsnap.org
#3
Last shot. Night shot of last night's (or this morning's) moon.



F8
Exp Time 1/10 Sec
ISO 100

As far as i can tell, there is little or no noise right? Pls correct me if i am wrong.

P/S I did not modify it in anyway except to resize it.
 

Kit

Senior Member
Jan 19, 2002
11,699
42
48
42
Upper Bukit Timah
Visit site
#5
As much as getting the exposure right, it as important for you to consider what you include in your photos. Subjects, composition, angle of view, etc.

Ask yourself before you press the button, what do you think is interesting in your scenes? How can I show it? What to include and what to exclude. A good photo doesn't necessary have to show everything.

As for the moon shot, it looks blur so you loose the sueface details.
 

Wolfgang

Senior Member
Apr 29, 2002
5,688
0
0
39
Riddle Realms
wolfgang.clubsnap.org
#6
Originally posted by Kit
As much as getting the exposure right, it as important for you to consider what you include in your photos. Subjects, composition, angle of view, etc.

Ask yourself before you press the button, what do you think is interesting in your scenes? How can I show it? What to include and what to exclude. A good photo doesn't necessary have to show everything.

As for the moon shot, it looks blur so you loose the sueface details.
Noted. :) Right now, i'm trying to get the technicalitues right first. As soon as i master them, i will start moving onto consideration of scenes and such. However, your advice is very much appreciated. :)

Any idea how to have the image of the moon sharper?

Kindly advise. :)
 

Kit

Senior Member
Jan 19, 2002
11,699
42
48
42
Upper Bukit Timah
Visit site
#8
Originally posted by Wolfgang


Noted. :) Right now, i'm trying to get the technicalitues right first. As soon as i master them, i will start moving onto consideration of scenes and such. However, your advice is very much appreciated. :)

Any idea how to have the image of the moon sharper?

Kindly advise. :)
You're welcome.

Why wait? You can produce good images while still learning on the technical stuff. There is no end to learning anything in photography, let along master. If you wait until you master something before moving to something else, then that something else will not come. I think compositional skills are obtained by training yourself to look harder into a scene, think twice or trice before you shoot. All these can be done while you're learning the techniques. Good techniques and compositional skills come hand in hand and you can't do without one or other.

As for the moon shot, I can't really give you much advice as I'm not really into that. But were you using a tripod?
 

Wolfgang

Senior Member
Apr 29, 2002
5,688
0
0
39
Riddle Realms
wolfgang.clubsnap.org
#9
Originally posted by Kit


You're welcome.

Why wait? You can produce good images while still learning on the technical stuff. There is no end to learning anything in photography, let along master. If you wait until you master something before moving to something else, then that something else will not come. I think compositional skills are obtained by training yourself to look harder into a scene, think twice or trice before you shoot. All these can be done while you're learning the techniques. Good techniques and compositional skills come hand in hand and you can't do without one or other.

As for the moon shot, I can't really give you much advice as I'm not really into that. But were you using a tripod?
Hmm.. true. Yes, You are right. Maybe i should put more thought into what i shoot or post here...

As for the moon shot.. all my shots were taken with a tripod.

But i think it's not in focus.. maybe i'll try again. ;)
 

Tweek

Senior Member
Jan 17, 2002
2,027
0
0
39
East
www.weekai.com
#10
the 2nd pic, maybe you can change the WB to reduce that orangy-cast, but it's a personal preference thing, some people find it more realistic to have an orangy-cast.

the moon pic, yes there is noise, the red and green colours on the moon surface are noises. The pic is not sharp because you were using full 27x zoom, means you engaged digital zoom as well.

Oh yah, using spot-metering is also a good tip for moon shots.
 

Wolfgang

Senior Member
Apr 29, 2002
5,688
0
0
39
Riddle Realms
wolfgang.clubsnap.org
#11
Originally posted by Tweek
the 2nd pic, maybe you can change the WB to reduce that orangy-cast, but it's a personal preference thing, some people find it more realistic to have an orangy-cast.

the moon pic, yes there is noise, the red and green colours on the moon surface are noises. The pic is not sharp because you were using full 27x zoom, means you engaged digital zoom as well.

Oh yah, using spot-metering is also a good tip for moon shots.
So the best way to reduce the blur-ness is to not engage the digital zoom? :confused:
 

Tweek

Senior Member
Jan 17, 2002
2,027
0
0
39
East
www.weekai.com
#12
Originally posted by Wolfgang


So the best way to reduce the blur-ness is to not engage the digital zoom? :confused:
yah, digital zoom is a software interpolation to blow up the pics, and in the process the image will lose its sharpness and details. For most of our photography needs, the 10x optical is more than enough, so I hardly or never use digital zoom. If you want, you can always "digital zoom" at home using Photoshop, the effect is about the same.
 

Wolfgang

Senior Member
Apr 29, 2002
5,688
0
0
39
Riddle Realms
wolfgang.clubsnap.org
#13
Originally posted by Tweek


yah, digital zoom is a software interpolation to blow up the pics, and in the process the image will lose its sharpness and details. For most of our photography needs, the 10x optical is more than enough, so I hardly or never use digital zoom. If you want, you can always "digital zoom" at home using Photoshop, the effect is about the same.
Right right... *nods* I get it now. :)

Erm.. wait.. Question.

In the A/S/M mode (which i have selected M to shoot all these pictures), does it mean i still have to manual focus?

And in A/S/M, the digital zoom can be activated meh? :)

Kindly advice.

Paiseh hor, i seem to have alot of question.

Please bear with me.

Thank you.
 

Tweek

Senior Member
Jan 17, 2002
2,027
0
0
39
East
www.weekai.com
#14
Originally posted by Wolfgang
In the A/S/M mode (which i have selected M to shoot all these pictures), does it mean i still have to manual focus?

And in A/S/M, the digital zoom can be activated meh? :)
autofocus is always there regardless of what mode you use, so in A/S/M mode, you don't have to manual focus, autofocus still works.

For the c700uz, the times when manual focus should be used is in dim lighting conditions, when the contrast-detection system cannot determine a good focus. For nightshots especially, sometimes it can be too dark for the cam to get a good focus. If all the subjects are very very far away, I usually will manual focus to infinity. Other than that, in normal lightings, the focus is usually spot on. Even if focus is off, releasing the shutter half-press then half-pressing again can usually get me a correct focus.

Digital zoom can be activated and deactivated in all modes (maybe except movie mode). I activate it all the time, but when zooming in, I ensure the zoom ruler doesn't get into the red colour range, which is the digital zoom range.

wolfgang, I'll send you a PM regarding my bank account, please transfer the consultation fees over asap. :D Just kidding.
 

Wolfgang

Senior Member
Apr 29, 2002
5,688
0
0
39
Riddle Realms
wolfgang.clubsnap.org
#15
Originally posted by Tweek

wolfgang, I'll send you a PM regarding my bank account, please transfer the consultation fees over asap. :D Just kidding.
LOL. Ok thanks for the advice given. :D

As for the payment, would monopoly money do? ;)

Cheers!
 

Flare

New Member
Jan 24, 2002
1,734
0
0
36
Bukit Batok West Avenue 2
public.fotki.com
#16
Another thing for moon shot.... remember to look out for those wisp of clouds, they will give you a soft moon... Personally, I just set the focus to infinity and shoot... I believe the moon may be bluf due to clouds..
 

Jayan

New Member
Jan 18, 2002
1,338
0
0
Hougang, SG
Visit site
#17
Originally posted by Flare
Another thing for moon shot.... remember to look out for those wisp of clouds, they will give you a soft moon... Personally, I just set the focus to infinity and shoot... I believe the moon may be bluf due to clouds..
Here's a pix of the full moon in January this year in black & white.....



Mode: Manual
Focus: Infinity
Aperture: F5.0
Shutter: 1/800 sec
Focal length: 1026mm (with digi-zoom)
WB: Auto (not applicable actually...)
ISO: 100
Resize from 1600x1200 to 800x600.
Pix taken hand-held with Image Stabilizer on.


Wolfie remember that at full digi-zoom the focal length is 1000+ mm, any minute hand movement will produce blurry pix. Use the fastest shutter speed if u aren't using a tripod.

Also, since the moon is so bright, using ESP metering will get over-exposed pix....using spot metering instead.

By the way, at less than 1 sec ur CCD should not have that much noise, u set ur ISO to AUTO is it? Higher ISO produces more CCD noise.
 

Jayan

New Member
Jan 18, 2002
1,338
0
0
Hougang, SG
Visit site
#19
Originally posted by MaGixShOe
nice full moon
can have the full colour one?
Your wish is granted...here's the full moon on April 26, 2002, in full color.



Mode: Manual
Focus: Infinity
Aperture: F4.5
Shutter: 1/800 sec
Focal length: 1026mm (with digi-zoom)
WB: Incandescent
ISO: 100
Resize from 1600x1200 to 800x600.
Pix taken hand-held with Image Stabilizer on.
 

IamJeFfy

New Member
Apr 15, 2002
1,203
0
0
#20
can someone tell me what's "infinity focus"?
so far, i didn't come across with that.
 

Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom