782 for the basic kit, body, DA-L 18-55 lens and energizer lithium AA battery, that's all.
New pentax user / K-x high ISO
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782 for the basic kit, body, DA-L 18-55 lens and energizer lithium AA battery, that's all.
thanks: ) Pretty reasonable price... is this a camera for taking reasonable close-up/macro objects?
I am not suggesting you do it... it may spoil your kx, but this article seems to suggest you can use non-Ai Nikon lens on a pentax k mount body.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=19738793
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=19738793
Hi. I think it is still worth saving for a K-7. Afterall, photography is not only about good ISO. Noise from high ISO can be reduce from PP. I would have bought a K-7 if my budget allows.
The K-7 has a much solid body and lens. IQ wise i'll leave it to K-7 owners to convince.
Hi. I think it is still worth saving for a K-7. Afterall, photography is not only about good ISO. Noise from high ISO can be reduce from PP. I would have bought a K-7 if my budget allows.
The K-7 has a much solid body and lens. IQ wise i'll leave it to K-7 owners to convince.
Thanks for the advice. I only had experience with K100D and K10D. I have to say K100D performs better in high ISO and K10D is unbeatable for low ISO.
Probably should stick to my initial plan, WR shall come in handy for trips. :bsmilie:
I had to choose between the two too (K7 vs. K-x) some time in the recent past... and after some comparison with images taken by both cameras, I decided to settle for the K-x.
Why? Main reason is that what the K7 can do is what many other cameras across other brands can do too. Of course the K7 is a great camera with a better build... but it just cannot compete with the high ISO capability straight-out-of-the-camera like the K-x can.
What the K-x can do can only be done by a few of the latest models across brands... and the Pentax K-x offered me the best bang-for-my-buck for an entry level camera!
If you do not think you will be needing this special high ISO capability, I'd suggest you invest in the K7 without any hesitation. Else, the K-x. Both are available at great prices at the moment, so do not :nono: waste any more time deciding!! :thumbsup:
Why? Main reason is that what the K7 can do is what many other cameras across other brands can do too. Of course the K7 is a great camera with a better build... but it just cannot compete with the high ISO capability straight-out-of-the-camera like the K-x can.
What the K-x can do can only be done by a few of the latest models across brands... and the Pentax K-x offered me the best bang-for-my-buck for an entry level camera!
If you do not think you will be needing this special high ISO capability, I'd suggest you invest in the K7 without any hesitation. Else, the K-x. Both are available at great prices at the moment, so do not :nono: waste any more time deciding!!
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Thanks for the advice.
The thing is, I am planning grad trip now, probably to some remote and wild area, so build quality is important to me. However, I do foresee myself help taking photos for my friends in dim light conditions, and carrying a flash or an extra lens is something I prefer to avoid.
So still in dilemma here.
I wish Pentax will introduce a digital body with K-x sensor inside the K7 body in the near future, and I would name it K7x. :bsmilie:
And sorry to TS for hijacking the thread :sweat:
That will happen sooner than later! There are some unconfirmed rumors floating around several web sites presently that Pentax is going to announce a camera model positioned between the K7 and a K-x this year and most probably call it the K5 or K-m2. This new model will have the K-x's high ISO capability along with many features from the K7... including focus confirmation lights in the view-finder.
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ogling & comparing high ISO pics in web-sized viewing resolution is meaningless.
if small-res pics are enough to satisfy you, any cam can do it, and the k-7 will not let you down either. don't forget there's also NR settings available for you to tune up NR strength in-cam for k-7. if not, when bigger resolution is needed, it'd be better to leave things to the user, which the k-7 is doing. it's often at higher res that manual work will produce more desirable results.
many pictures when seen on your cam's screen look cool, but will shock you when it's opened in your computer at home.
since hitting the sliders is more or less inevitable, why not add a few clicks and do some noise reduction in post, then the k-7's strengths will show, in the form of better detail retention and greater flexibility
if small-res pics are enough to satisfy you, any cam can do it, and the k-7 will not let you down either. don't forget there's also NR settings available for you to tune up NR strength in-cam for k-7. if not, when bigger resolution is needed, it'd be better to leave things to the user, which the k-7 is doing. it's often at higher res that manual work will produce more desirable results.
many pictures when seen on your cam's screen look cool, but will shock you when it's opened in your computer at home.
since hitting the sliders is more or less inevitable, why not add a few clicks and do some noise reduction in post, then the k-7's strengths will show, in the form of better detail retention and greater flexibility
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ogling & comparing high ISO pics in web-sized viewing resolution is meaningless.
if small-res pics are enough to satisfy you, any cam can do it, and the k-7 will not let you down either. don't forget there's also NR settings available for you to tune up NR strength in-cam for k-7. if not, when bigger resolution is needed, it'd be better to leave things to the user, which the k-7 is doing. it's often at higher res that manual work will produce more desirable results.
many pictures when seen on your cam's screen look cool, but will shock you when it's opened in your computer at home.
since hitting the sliders is more or less inevitable, why not add a few clicks and do some noise reduction in post, then the k-7's strengths will show, in the form of better detail retention and greater flexibility
True,true but so far ive never seen a cool pic on my camera and then get a shock when i see it on my com :sweatsm:
since hitting the sliders is more or less inevitable, why not add a few clicks and do some noise reduction in post, then the k-7's strengths will show, in the form of better detail retention and greater flexibility
Can share what you use for NR in PP? Do you use some specialised s/w like Noise Ninja?
I see detail preservation of k-x in High ISO is outstanding. But i see IQ of K-7 in base ISO better... twinfolds...
sample images please. two image from both camera on a same size. i dont have a K-7 to compare the two..tskI see detail preservation of k-x in High ISO is outstanding. But i see IQ of K-7 in base ISO better... twinfolds...
im not a pixel peeper but i was also wondering if IQ in the K-7 is better than the K-x, although im not sure if they're in the same ground to start with..
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will try to get you images from the two this weekend. as I am not a pixel peeper myself too
But mind you, IQ is subjective. My taste will not be applicable to your taste.
Please check the link. http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/77902-k7-kx-picture-comparision-take-2-raw-jpegs-available-download.html
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i use neat image, used noise ninja before but couldn't get used to it..
:bsmilie: maybe i'm exaggerating, but i'm sure there are people who see 2 different things on cam and on comp, and are upset..
in TS 1st post, can see that the grain in the sky are coarse and blotchy, afaik k-7 does not produce such grain; it's much finer, uniformly distributed, but much harder on the eyes..
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