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dkw

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Sigh,
really sad that in this day and age, you can still have military dictatorships ruining nations and their peoples. -->

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7015751.stm

http://multimedia.asiaone.com/Multimedia/News/Story/A1Multimedia20070927-1505.html

Myanmar, a country of huge natural beauty, bountiful resources and wonderful talented people. At the end of the day, how well a nation does really does come down to the quality of its leadership.
 

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And not a word from ASEAN... pathetic
Maybe because a lot of ASEAN states are also run by generals?
 

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And not a word from ASEAN... pathetic
Maybe because a lot of ASEAN states are also run by generals?
you must be living in a well ...... :think:
go read the papers before making unsubstantiated statement.
 

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The ASEAN gov'ment r probably in SEMI-cohort with the Junta. They ALL have some kinda dealings with the JUNTA even S'pore ,hence the soft stance since the useless ASEAN was set up for money spinning oportunities amongst the countries. If ASEAN were really constructive ,the bloody Junta wold have long perished!All these ASEAN summits are useless with the pat on the back n 'let's give face to one another' PLUS the usual cliche Asian way of doing things diplomatically. Well how about the killings of innocents n monks. Don't think it;s Asian lest Universal isn;t it?

It's really sad how things have turned out-hope people power prevail! The Burmese deserve BETTER.For ONCE i side with the STOOPID US gov;ment and EU for sanctions against this cruel regime.

FYI i;m S;porean n fell in love with the Myanmese people while travelling there:bheart:
 

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The ASEAN gov'ment r probably in SEMI-cohort with the Junta. They ALL have some kinda dealings with the JUNTA even S'pore ,hence the soft stance since the useless ASEAN was set up for money spinning oportunities amongst the countries. If ASEAN were really constructive ,the bloody Junta wold have long perished!All these ASEAN summits are useless with the pat on the back n 'let's give face to one another' PLUS the usual cliche Asian way of doing things diplomatically. Well how about the killings of innocents n monks. Don't think it;s Asian lest Universal isn;t it?

It's really sad how things have turned out-hope people power prevail! The Burmese deserve BETTER.For ONCE i side with the STOOPID US gov;ment and EU for sanctions against this cruel regime.

FYI i;m S;porean n fell in love with the Myanmese people while travelling there:bheart:
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This obvious violence is not considered terorism...welcome to the new world order.

Really scarry looking at the picture of the Japanese reporter get shot when taking pictures
 

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It is not that Asean does not want to care, but what do you want Asean to do? Impose sanctions? And who suffers? The people. Do a ala USA For Freedom style "military intervention" of Myanmar for its own good and expect to be welcomed as "liberators" Most likely end up country will end up being carved up into pieces among the its liberators.

Change can only happen within the country and only the Burmese can decide for themselves what they want to do. No one else. Now its a test to see who will back down first in this battle for force and wits. What I am closely watching are the tribal armies of the Karen and other groups to see what is their next move. For them it could be an Golden opportunity to break away from Myanmar. Democracy might not follow this protests, a civil war might be what we see coming up.
 

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seriously, have you guys ever wondered what would happen in Singapore if thousands of people take to the streets? food for thought.
 

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The military is no 'people's army'. They are shipped in from far flank war torn parts of Myanmar brain washed right from young age to fight battles against opposition battle groups. Very tough & has totally no feeling for people living in Yangon.

Filipino style of people- conquered- army fantasy don't work for these war machines.
 

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Similar to the deployment of PLA troops from outside the Beijing Military District during the Tiananmen crisis.

The 39th Army refused to shoot the students, and the rest we know is history, wrought by units from other parts of China.
 

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While the Tiananmen protests in 1989 are similar with what is happenning now in Burma, the underlying situation is actually very different. China was undergoing a period of economic reforms that were similar to what Russia were going through, and the result of that coupled with the death of Hu Yaobang triggered the protests. Here in Burma, it looks to me as repressed people protesting against tyrants who don't care about their own people.

I wonder what our fellow forumners from China think about that incident now.
 

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While the Tiananmen protests in 1989 are similar with what is happenning now in Burma, the underlying situation is actually very different. China was undergoing a period of economic reforms that were similar to what Russia were going through, and the result of that coupled with the death of Hu Yaobang triggered the protests. Here in Burma, it looks to me as repressed people protesting against tyrants who don't care about their own people.

I wonder what our fellow forumners from China think about that incident now.
I believe in China, they are not reporting the news in Myanmar. Of course with the Internet, everyone can access foreign newspapers and webnews. Put it this way, in modern China now, doubtful that the educated would want to protests aka Tiananmen style. Reasoning being simple, China is growing in affluence. Hence if you can make sure the people are fed then mostly likely you are going to get the mandate of the people to rule. In addition, with China's present couth, the Chinese people are happy that they are finally respected by the rest of the world after all the years of being treated as 2nd class. Putting aside small issues like Tibet etc, the majority of the Chinese are proud that they now have much weight in the world arena. And that can be attributed to the Deng's Market Reform policies.
 

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Singapore's position in this situation is difficult. When I was in Myanmar, majority of Burmese thought us to be in 'co-operation' with the hatred regime in many ways, from dominating the commerce to supply of military equipments ( Rumours ? )

For I believe our garment being in constructive engagement, it is also important that we invest in a proper manner that does not made us the shrewd people... remember Shin Corp & the same can well happen in Burma.
 

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seriously, have you guys ever wondered what would happen in Singapore if thousands of people take to the streets? food for thought.
hardly applicable imo...most are too conservative, even if there are it seems their efforts are not supported by the rest. Whatever they might be protesting we usually will support if we think alike but do nothing. That is, singaporeans.
 

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