that mean monk entitle to have $$.....
From what I know yes. But it may only be from the temple that I went only. :dunno:
that mean monk entitle to have $$.....
U gotta be joking rite...
So u're saying that if a monk need to be enlightened, he have to go to a niteclub and do nothing?
From what i know... in sg, most monks are from overseas, hence have work permit... temple have to pay for their levy and such... but i think they shouldn't be 'counting money' as its mostly donations they are given...
a monk who drive? a merc somemore? pardon me, but to me that is hypocrisy at the highest level. a monk who buys computers? wat needs he for a computer? he need to log on to enlightenment.com meh?
i appologize if i sounded provocative, but where i come from, we give monks what they need, and more often than not, they refused many of our offerings. other than a simple meal, they wouldn't even touch money i gave them to buy meal for themselves. that, is a monk.
bro .... this is common sense.My question is that are monks allowed to have credit cards legally and morally(as according to buddhist beliefs) in Singapore and in other parts of the world? And are they allowed to give away supplementary credit cards? Cause this is the first time I have ever heard of a monk carrying a credit card!
bro .... this is common sense.
anyone can have credit cards as long as any issuing banks want to issue to him .... as in, if there is a God, he too can have one legally and morally ...:dunno:
its possible that the credit card belongs to the temple (company credit card)......I agree that there is nothing wrong with Monks/temples having PC's and/or handphones.Please read the entire thread first before commenting. This is not so simple, just read that in Singapore, issuance of credit cards is subjected to MAS regulations which means you must earn a min income, unless u are student, nsf(which means u get only up to S$500 limit). That being said, he cannot legally get a credit card as a principal card holder since he is not drawing any salary.:sticktong
The computers may have been purchased for the temple, they also need to learn these things, and can get more info on what the world is about. Being a monk doesn't mean to close yourself up from the world forever, this is a misconception.Maybe from where you come, monks still practise the way what have been done since the founding of Buddhism. But in Singapore, sadly, its not the case for some particular group of so-called ''Enlightened Monks''. Anyway, those that I saw might be ''Dark Horses'' of the monks community. There are good ones too. There is a balance to all.
I am not trying to provote anyone. Those thing I said earlier were facts that I saw with my own eyes? Just go down to SLS or Funan you will find some if you are lucky to see them. I think fellow CSers who visits IT malls often will have a glimpse of them shopping for all these stuffs. Purchase those things for what I dont know. Maybe driving a Mercs or BM to impress clients he is really 'something good' that why he could afford. But sadly, in some eyes, its not. Its breaking of a code of conduct that has been laid down for thousands of years.
Cheers
Not just a test, but its to avoid of being distracted. Its about controlling the mind, and since many people that go into monkhood are having different levels of mental development, it is better not too have many distractions, but this doesn't mean one have to go to a cave all their life, cause there are benefits too from using phones or computers.....I haven't seen any benefits though from drinking alcohol :bsmilie:A True Monk/Nun is supposed to be renounced from the material world.
Meaning they no need Mobile, Cash, Cars, Credits Cards, Condo etc..... whatsoever material forms.
That is their very basics of cultivation and practise (Comfort, $$$, lust, booze...etc...) a test to see if he/she can really renounce the material world and if he/she who decided to renounce the world but succumb to material needs they must well leave the Ordain, dun leave a bad name, thats no difference to me.
Meaning they are ordinary folks with a job as a monk/nun.
It is a disaster to see it become a Career!
Being a monk is all about personal cultivation, morals and practise of Buddism ie followings Buddha's path way of teachings!
Personal cultivation is changing ones character etc.... A sad thing that changing ones character is being associated with $$$.
Very sad but true.:cry:
A True Monk/Nun is supposed to be renounced from the material world.
Meaning they no need Mobile, Cash, Cars, Credits Cards, Condo etc..... whatsoever material forms.
That is their very basics of cultivation and practise (Comfort, $$$, lust, booze...etc...) a test to see if he/she can really renounce the material world and if he/she who decided to renounce the world but succumb to material needs they must well leave the Ordain, dun leave a bad name, thats no difference to me.
Meaning they are ordinary folks with a job as a monk/nun.
It is a disaster to see it become a Career!
Being a monk is all about personal cultivation, morals and practise of Buddism ie followings Buddha's path way of teachings!
Personal cultivation is changing ones character etc.... A sad thing that changing ones character is being associated with $$$.
Very sad but true.:cry:
In Singapore, you need to earn at least S$2500 for most credit cards with the exception of certain credit cards that have a $500 limit and that is either you are serving in the military, student, or earn at least S$1800 for manhatten credit card, or drawing a salary.
The Ren Ci founder is in neither one of the above category since he does not draw a salary. So how is he allowed to have a credit card and who pays for his bills?
I heard that monks do have salary and there is a thing called secured credit card too.
Melvin, when u wanna go be a monk? :bsmilie:
btw, should we probably think in line that, monks & nuns are bankrupts? Since nothing belongs to them, they got no material needs. Then everything given is a donation...
Not just a test, but its to avoid of being distracted. Its about controlling the mind, and since many people that go into monkhood are having different levels of mental development, it is better not too have many distractions, but this doesn't mean one have to go to a cave all their life, cause there are benefits too from using phones or computers.....I haven't seen any benefits though from drinking alcohol :bsmilie:
Waiting for u!;p
On the Thursday April 16, 2009 edition of the Straits Times newspaper in the Home section, it was reported that the Ren CI Founder, Ming Yi had credit cards and had given supplementary credit cards to at least 3 other people.
My question is that are monks allowed to have credit cards legally and morally(as according to buddhist beliefs) in Singapore and in other parts of the world? And are they allowed to give away supplementary credit cards? Cause this is the first time I have ever heard of a monk carrying a credit card!
On the Thursday April 16, 2009 edition of the Straits Times newspaper in the Home section, it was reported that the Ren CI Founder, Ming Yi had credit cards and had given supplementary credit cards to at least 3 other people.
My question is that are monks allowed to have credit cards legally and morally(as according to buddhist beliefs) in Singapore and in other parts of the world? And are they allowed to give away supplementary credit cards? Cause this is the first time I have ever heard of a monk carrying a credit card!
A True Monk/Nun is supposed to be renounced from the material world.
Meaning they no need Mobile, Cash, Cars, Credits Cards, Condo etc..... whatsoever material forms.
It is a disaster to see it become a Career!
Being a monk is all about personal cultivation, morals and practise of Buddism ie followings Buddha's path way of teachings!
Personal cultivation is changing ones character etc.... A sad thing that changing ones character is being associated with $$$.
Very sad but true.:cry: