Stylus C34 said:
Selfish evil act? That's an understatement. I have seen some threatening the MO starter like,
"I'll make sure your stocks NEVER come into SG."
To be frank, till date, I'm still puzzled about this statement, and would really like to see how can a dunno-who able to stop someone's stock from coming to SG. Or did I undersestimate the power of the dark side, the dunno-what council?
Such behaviour is definitely not acceptable here.
Just my 0.2 cents.
Maybe you should follow up the recent Mayonaise case before posting in here to create more unhappiness among members here.
Here are all his threads:
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=104881
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=104745
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=105975
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=104990
If I don't remember wrongly, there are another 2 more threads that was locked by the moderators in the Buy & Sell Forum.
The following is a brief outline of what has happened:
i. Mayonaise posted MO threads in the Buy&Sell forum for his SB800 & SB600
ii. According to CS's rules in the B&S, all MO threads are to be conducted in the Consumer Corner.
iii. The moderators with the rightful duty, moved the thread on his behalf to the Consumer Corner.
iv. He, however not happy with the move, create duplicate threads in the Buy & Sell forum again, thus broke another rule in CS's posting for creating multiple duplicate thread concurrently in both forum. Maybe he is trying to monopolize in CS. However both the duplicate thread was locked by the moderators in the B&S.
v. After sometime, he again composed similar threads in the B&S forum, which was again moved by moderators to the Consumer Corner.
vi. He thus make a din on the thread, which ESPN pointed out that it is only right for the moderators' action. He thus start calling names and made snide remarks at ESPN which it is only reasonable for ESPN to retaliate back.
vii. He later sabotage my thread on the jusBounce card by linking my thread as a confrontation to the moderators on whether my thread is a MO or not. On top of that, he posted snide remarks in my thread, see this ->
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showpost.php?p=989390&postcount=17. I tried to explain mine thread is not a MO, here is my explaination ->
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showpost.php?p=989529&postcount=23.
vii. He later still not convince with the whole thing and do another posting in the B&S trying to pick a fight with everyone here, see ->
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=105993
viii. Lastly he tries to gain fellow CS's support by posting a Good Bye thread in this KopiTiam Forum ->
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=106086
The above is a summary of the events happen to Mayonaise.
The following are my personal feel.
I have been doing a lot of MO in CS here by getting cheaper or better deals, so much so that there are ppl here call me the 'MO King'. A rule of thumb is we must always remember,
CS does not belongs to us. It is a privilege given to us as a member to post, so it is only a polite for us not to bleach the rules laid down by the admin and moderators. That's is why I always do not argue with moderators who moved/lock my threads from the B&S, which that sometimes does happen.
Me and I believe most ppl here, we do not force anyone to buy from us. It is a free-will thing. In fact I personally feel dutiful to any ppl who MOed from me. That's why I invited fellow photographers to join me in the 'Nikon User Group' gathering if they have problems with photography or their camera gears. Recently, from my previous ML-L1 remote controllers MO, believe it or not, I did actually keeps a small qty in case there are any RMA. And after months, which none have returned to me, I recently actually give them all out FOC to those new D70 owners.
Likewise I personally witness ESPN teaches and help fellow Nikonians to customise curves for their newly purchased D70. In fact fellow members like Scanner who actually teaches and share knowledge on flash photography during the recent D70 newbies outing. These actions are commendable. However recently, there are a mixed feeling with some members thinking that all these actions are questionable to some members thinking that we actually have some monetary gain, then please think again. I seriously doubt these members' intentions, as either jealousy behaviours or do seriously harbouring evil intentions over good deeds shown by others so as to kill the mood of the one who is actually rendering the good deed.
I normally do not post or try to sell items that others have already been doing openly in the forum here. This is a basic respect to fellow members, who is selling that same item, cos we will meet or may meet one of these days in person. This is also to avoid unhappiness. With this mutual respect for each other, I maintain a good relationship with fellow members like ESPN, and also some of csers here. Ever since Mayonaise is doing his MO on the Nikon Flashes, I have stopped mine, and I did not post or disturb in his thread before. Anyone can do a search to see if I ever posted anything on any of his threads. BTW, did I ever mention that I can actually get the local Singapore warranty set of SB600 for $360 including GST as compared to his MO price of $340 before 5%GST. And also to his previous sale of a single unit for $375,
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=104992. On the other hand, he however comes to my thread and post snide remarks and later still have the cheek to ask for peace via PM after what he have done to my thread. Is this the right thing to do? Moreover he still tries to urgue his way out using PM to me that his is not MO just like my Bounce cards. Let me emphaize my stand again,
I AM THE SOLE DISTRIBUTOR OF JUSBOUNCE PVC BOUNCE CARDS IN SINGAPORE, I DO NOT NEED TO MASS ORDER, MO, MY OWN PRODUCTS!. It is not the matter of whether you hold ready stock or not, which I believe he misinteprete the rules.
For fellow members who may not know, there is no such official 'Nikon Cxxxxxl'. What we normally meetup with fellow members in Peninsula Hotel Spinelli Cafe is a photographers' chit-chating sessions. I've already made known in this thread:
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=102210. It so happen that most users are using Nikon System. BTW as agreed with the Admin and Moderators of CS, this gathering have been renamed as 'Nikon User Group'.
Lastly from my understanding from ESPN after the whole issue, Mayonaise also PM espn with some absurd questioning, remarks picking a fight with him, maybe espn would like to share it further.