Malaysia Airlines plane missing...


An drew

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Looks like the technical problem surfaced shortly after take-off.

 

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We now have a Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) Lockheed C-130 Hercules loitering on scene to assist with Search & Rescue (SAR) operation.

* Fokker 50 (F50) Enforcer Mk. II Maritime Patrol Aircraft (MPA) to possibly follow soon after.

* Cospas-Sarsat (Singapore), SIMCC (5630) monitoring for 406.02 MHz Ultra High Frequency (UHF) digital burst broadcast from Emergency Locator Transmitter (ELT).
 

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Yutaka Go

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Looks like the technical problem surfaced shortly after take-off.
Hard to say at this moment it is due to technical problem.

Most of the passengers are Chinese and recently there is another crack down on Muslim separatists in China, which may anger extremists in SE Asia :(
 

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The Malaysian transport minister has given a press conference, but without revealing much more concrete information. No wreckage has been found, the exact location of the plane is unknown, helicopters and ships have been deployed to search for it. The reports from the Vietnamese navy that the plane has crashed remain unconfirmed.
 

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We now have a Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) Lockheed C-130 Hercules loitering on scene to assist with Search & Rescue (SAR) operation.

* Fokker 50 (F50) Enforcer Mk. II Maritime Patrol Aircraft (MPA) to possibly follow soon after.

* Cospas-Sarsat (Singapore); SIMCC (5630) monitoring for 406.02 MHz Ultra High Frequency (UHF) digital burst broadcast from Emergency Locator Transmitter (ELT).
 

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The plane departed Kuala Lumpur at 12:21 a.m. Saturday (1621 GMT Friday) and was scheduled for landing in Beijing at 6:30 a.m. (2230 GMT) the same day.

when the incident happened, the plane had 7.5 hours of fuel, so by now it should be somewhere.
 

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The 777 is a good plane. No distress call, no reports of airplane problems by flight crew, no signs of stormy weather.

Just a disappearance from radar, may mean sudden catastrophic destruction of the plane.

No time even for pilots to radio the problem. If it was a slowly emerging problem, the crew would have reported.

MLY is departure point. The plane carrying 2/3 PRC passengers.

The flight path is over the sea. Planes lost at sea are near impossible to recover and diagnose.

The Pan Am Flight 103 a.k.a. Lockerbie bombing was timed to explode over the sea. But due to a flight delay, Pan Am Flight 103 exploded over land. From the recovered wreckage police could trace the cause and culprits.
 

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The Malaysian transport minister has given a press conference, but without revealing much more concrete information. No wreckage has been found, the exact location of the plane is unknown, helicopters and ships have been deployed to search for it. The reports from the Vietnamese navy that the plane has crashed remain unconfirmed.
Basically, he admitted they know nothing?
 

Yutaka Go

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The 777 is a good plane. No distress call, no reports of airplane problems by flight crew, no signs of stormy weather.

Just a disappearance from radar, may mean sudden catastrophic destruction of the plane.

No time even for pilots to radio the problem. If it was a slowly emerging problem, the crew would have reported.

MLY is departure point and majority Muslim country. The plane carrying 2/3 PRC passengers.

The flight path is over the sea. Planes lost at sea are near impossible to recover and diagnose.

The Pan Am Flight 103 a.k.a. Lockerbie bombing was timed to explode over the sea. But due to a flight delay, Pan Am Flight 103 exploded over land. From the recovered wreckage police could trace the cause and culprits.
Your suspicion is same as mine.
If it is due to technical problem, the pilot would radio for help and request permission to land at nearest airport.
The plane just drop out of the sky with no time for pilot to react is highly suspicious.

And it happen so close to the crack down on Muslim separatist :(
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-02/china-separatists-stab-29-to-death-at-train-station-xinhua-says.html
 

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shierwin

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Hard to say at this moment it is due to technical problem.

Most of the passengers are Chinese and recently there is another crack down on Muslim separatists in China, which may anger extremists in SE Asia :(
Hundreds of flights criss-cross china and almost full with Chinese nationals. Don't you think that will be better targets than a MAS flight?
 

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Malaysia is well-regarded in the Muslim world, very unlikely that the national carrier would be targeted.
If someone really wanted to hurt China, they could have hit any of the China-based airlines.
 

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Planes lost at sea are near impossible to recover and diagnose.
Gulf of Thailand is relatively quite shallow with a maximum depth of 80 metres, wreckages from South African Airways Flight 295 (SPRINGBOK 295) and Air France Flight 447 (AIRFRANS 447) was recovered from a depth of 4,900 metres and 3,800 metres respectively.
 

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Gulf of Thailand is relatively quite shallow with a maximum depth of 80 metres, wreckages from South African Airways Flight 295 (SPRINGBOK 295) and Air France Flight 447 (AIRFRANS 447) was recovered from a depth of 4,900 metres and 3,800 metres respectively.
gulf of thailand only 80metres deep? wow.. that is very shallow
 

Yutaka Go

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Hundreds of flights criss-cross china and almost full with Chinese nationals. Don't you think that will be better targets than a MAS flight?
Malaysia is well-regarded in the Muslim world, very unlikely that the national carrier would be targeted.
If someone really wanted to hurt China, they could have hit any of the China-based airlines.
They will always go for easy target :(

Nobody think they will target Malaysia Airline so it is an easy target.
 

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Searchers from Malaysia, Singapore and Vietnam have still found no evidence of any plane wreckage, according to the airline’s latest statement just now.

The sea search was to continue overnight while the air operation has been called off and will start again at daylight, it said.
 

An drew

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Thanks.

http://leehamnews.com/2014/03/07/in...-mh370/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Investigative focus on MAS MH370
The following will be areas of focus for the investigation of the Malaysian Airlines MH370 crash, involving a Boeing 777-200ER equipped with Rolls-Royce engines. These are standard areas of investigation and at this point, listing them here doesn’t imply or suggest any one area is more prevalent than another.


Catastrophic structural failure of the airframe and/or engines. We consider this highly unlikely, given the sterling history of the 777, but investigators will look at this possibility.
Dual engine flame out and immediate loss of control. The RR engines have had a history of icing that cut fuel flow. This was the cause of the British Airways 777-200ER crash landing at London Heathrow. A fix was undertaken, but this possibility will undoubtedly be considered. Even if this happened, unless there was an immediate loss of control, there would have been glide time and the ability of the crew to radio an emergency. The Ram Air Turbine (RAT) would have supplied basic power and instrumentation.
Control upset caused by clear air turbulence. Apparently weather was good but CAT is not unusual in the Pacific. CAT would have to be awfully extreme to cause an upset of such magnitude as to permit the airplane to dive into the ocean in so short a period of time as to preclude a radio call. But remember that Air France 447 descended from cruising altitude to impact without a radio call in a very short period of time.
Cockpit penetration and incapacitation of the crew, followed by deliberate destruction of the airplane.
A bomb.
Any prospect of an accidental shoot-down by a military missile.
Pilot suicide. As inflammatory as this possibility is, this has been the cause of at least two crashes into water. The history of the pilots will be studied and any information from the black boxes will help on this point,
 

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Boeing 777-2H6/ER (9M-MRO "Romeo Oscar") operating as Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (MALAYSIAN 370) last radar contact at 06° 55′ 15″ North 103° 34′ 43″ East is right on the edge of our Area of Responsibility (AoR).



Flight plan (airway routing): PIBOS R208 IKUKO M076F290 R208 IGARI M765 BITOD N0480F330 L637 TSN N0490F350 W1 BMT W12 PCA G221 BUNTA N0480F350 A1 IKELA N0480F350 P901 IDOSI N0480F390 DCT CH DCT BEKOL K0890S1160 A461 YIN K0890S1190 A461


Singapore Search and Rescue Region (SSR)


Singapore Flight Information Region (FIR)
 

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